psilocybin mushrooms improve hearing?, opinions |
psilocybin mushrooms improve hearing?, opinions |
Apr 20 2007, 13:26
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I'm just throwing this out, I don't care if the mods move or delete this post.
For the past several years I've had a very nice cache of cyan mushrooms. Yes the psychoactive ones. The ones that make you trip. I've noticed something interesting - I think they improve my hearing. If I take just a small amount, like a nickel sized piece of shroom flesh - not enough to trip, it makes my hearing more acute. I swear. I'm almost 40, have good hearing normally. I find I become much more sensitive to high frequency sounds (like my CRT, computer power supply and fans) and I think my hearing overall becomes more acute. Suddenly I can hear the neighbors in my apartment complex much more clearly (having good hearing can be a bit of a curse). I doubt the drug changes the mechanics of hearing, but it does tweak the nerve conduction and sensory processing. It's thought that most of perception is unconscious and a lot of stuff gets filtered before it reaches the level of conscious perception. Perhaps the drug removes some of this filtering? I've read a few accounts online that agree with this, including one person with moderate hearing loss that found low doses of shrooms helped his hearing greatly. It would be interesting to actually measure this and see if there's a real difference in hearing acuity, or if it's all in your head |
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Jun 25 2011, 14:13
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rebinator, I think most readers would appreciate a citation or empirical evidence (see ToS#8, whose conditions you accepted upon registering) for your claim that vast improvements of hearing and awareness attend the psychelic experience, especially as you deemed these phenomena significant enough to bump a topic after almost 50 months…
I imagine it’s natural that you would think/feel/whatever that things were different, given that the drugs are by definition mind-altering, but subjective experience of one person is of no indication or use to others. And, as ToS#8 makes clear, Hydrogenaudio eschews such anecdotal evidence in order to maintain discussion that is evidence-based and trustworthy for readers who may be easily led; this puts it in contrast to many other audio-based websites, and for the better I would say. |
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Jul 27 2011, 07:30
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by the very terms of service, then, the question of whether Psylocybin improves the sense of hearing is ill-framed, and not an appropriate question for this forum (perhaps I misinterpreted the question)
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/style_...default/dry.gif if it was important for me to "prove a claim", as you so put it, I would probably put up a Sibelius or Reason based transcription of a song with and without. Someone here mentioned an ABX, and I think that's probably the closest thing that a subjective act like hearing will ever provide us with. I suppose the only way is for one to test It is natural that I "feel that way" (talk about the ineffability of the experience!), but my reasons are sound, no pun intended. I'm sorry if my words are considered spurious or anecdotal, but I stand by my 'claim'. Perhaps this _is_ the wrong crowd, and if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my musical enjoyment. (PS) I find your officiousness pleasantly diverting, but not enough, I'm afraid, to get me to alter my expressed opinion. I'm sorry if my statement was in violation of sentiment and ordinance, but perhaps evidence is pending? peace rebinator, I think most readers would appreciate a citation or empirical evidence (see ToS#8, whose conditions you accepted upon registering) for your claim that vast improvements of hearing and awareness attend the psychelic experience, especially as you deemed these phenomena significant enough to bump a topic after almost 50 months… I imagine it’s natural that you would think/feel/whatever that things were different, given that the drugs are by definition mind-altering, but subjective experience of one person is of no indication or use to others. And, as ToS#8 makes clear, Hydrogenaudio eschews such anecdotal evidence in order to maintain discussion that is evidence-based and trustworthy for readers who may be easily led; this puts it in contrast to many other audio-based websites, and for the better I would say. |
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Jul 28 2011, 22:02
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Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 29-April 10 Member No.: 80274 |
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FloggedSynapse psilocybin mushrooms improve hearing? Apr 20 2007, 13:26
pest In my opinion, psychoactive drugs don't improv... Apr 20 2007, 13:41
FloggedSynapse QUOTE (pest @ Apr 20 2007, 07:41) In my o... Apr 20 2007, 14:27
marcan Definitely an interesting discussion.
I work in t... Apr 20 2007, 13:49
Societal Eclipse On a particularly large dose of Elemicin in a crow... Apr 20 2007, 14:47
Big_Berny It would be interesting if ABXing is easier with t... Apr 20 2007, 15:18
boojum Better living through chemicals; yeah, right. Apr 20 2007, 15:30
Societal Eclipse I don't think anyone here is/was advocating dr... Apr 20 2007, 15:57
boojum QUOTE (Societal Eclipse @ Apr 20 2007, 07... Apr 20 2007, 21:51
FloggedSynapse QUOTE (boojum @ Apr 20 2007, 15:51) Seems... Apr 20 2007, 22:46
Cornie QUOTE (FloggedSynapse @ Apr 20 2007, 13:4... Apr 21 2007, 18:24
Akuostophile [quote name='Cornie' date='Apr 21 2007... Apr 21 2007, 21:04
Cornie QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 21 2007, 12:04)... Apr 21 2007, 21:27
Akuostophile Actually, my reply was to FloggedSynapse - as you ... Apr 21 2007, 21:50
Cornie QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 21 2007, 12:50)... Apr 21 2007, 23:47
Akuostophile QUOTE (Cornie @ Apr 21 2007, 18:47) QUOTE... Apr 22 2007, 03:22
boojum [/quote]
As the original poster questioned, I too ... Apr 22 2007, 21:14
Nick E Why the Latinate name? See George Orwell: Politics... Apr 20 2007, 18:08
FloggedSynapse QUOTE (Nick E @ Apr 20 2007, 12:08) Why t... Apr 20 2007, 21:29
marcan I tried, without too much excess, a lot of differe... Apr 20 2007, 22:11
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (Nick E @ Apr 20 2007, 18:08) I sup... Apr 21 2007, 08:01
de Mon Can you prove your listening abilities become bett... Apr 21 2007, 09:14
znode QUOTE (FloggedSynapse @ Apr 20 2007, 04:2... Apr 21 2007, 09:16
Akuostophile It would be interesting to actually measure this a... Apr 21 2007, 15:38
The Seeker Terence McKenna stated that even at moderate dosag... Apr 21 2007, 17:19
Donunus are we talking listening like daredevil here? Apr 21 2007, 21:20
Akuostophile QUOTE (Donunus @ Apr 21 2007, 16:20) are ... Apr 21 2007, 21:36
Lyx Psychedelics in general (not just sound) rarely ... Apr 22 2007, 15:38
marcan I start a comparable subject few years ago here on... Apr 23 2007, 00:17
Lyx QUOTE (marcan @ Apr 23 2007, 01:17) As I ... Apr 23 2007, 00:29
marcan QUOTE (Lyx @ Apr 22 2007, 15:29) The test... Apr 23 2007, 00:51
Lyx QUOTE (marcan @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51) Well ... Apr 23 2007, 00:59
Lyx Sorry, but the above post serves no useful purpose... Apr 22 2007, 21:21
Kees de Visser There are probably quite some studies on the subje... Apr 22 2007, 22:32
Mo0zOoH QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 22 2007, 06:22)... Apr 22 2007, 23:58
greynol Perhaps new psychoacoustic models can be created t... Apr 23 2007, 00:35
marcan QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 22 2007, 15:35) Perh... Apr 23 2007, 00:40
Woodinville Well, I haven't a clue about the subject at ha... Apr 24 2007, 19:09
krabapple and indeed, hallucinogens have long been associate... Apr 27 2007, 05:37
turtledude23 But are you saying you can hear better all the tim... Apr 29 2007, 19:34
dlorde I think it depends what is meant by 'improve... May 3 2007, 16:47
rebinator Shrooms (4-HO-DMT) imroving hearing? I daresay the... Jun 24 2011, 07:17
mudlord Got any ABX tests to prove those claims? Jun 25 2011, 11:33
rebinator would you ever accept transcriptions? The extra pa... Jul 27 2011, 06:53
mjb2006 rebinator, the subjective experiences you describe... Jul 28 2011, 05:15
db1989 Your idea of transcribing in both states and compa... Jul 28 2011, 20:42
pdq I don't see how one could do a valid ABX test ... Jul 28 2011, 21:01
Bartholomew MacGruber Supposedly LSD at some dosage can increase the abi... Mar 1 2012, 08:04![]() ![]() |
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