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Quick Tagger
Peter
post Oct 16 2007, 15:39
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Quick Tagger adds customizable context menu commands for quickly setting tag fields to preconfigured values (for rating and such). Can be used to bind keyboard shortcuts to simple tag modifications.

Download: http://foobar2000.org/components/

Quick Tagger is meant to replace bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-simple-tag-edit functionality of the old Masstagger component. It's not meant to be a complete tag editing solution replacing the Properties dialog or other tag editing related components.


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@Lyx

To understand what you mean could you describe me in few words how such a component could look like?


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post Oct 16 2007, 20:20
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QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Oct 16 2007, 21:08) *
@Lyx

To understand what you mean could you describe me in few words how such a component could look like?

Not like a submenu but instead a dialog or panel - with all mood-related settings being visible. Its not just UI stuff but also behaviour.... manually tagging every single track/album may be annoying. One could use tricks like that the user doesnt actually tag the files himself and instead just sets his current mood or the mood of the music in a panel - with the component then automatically applying those settings to every fully played track. So, you just tell it the current mood of the music... and it cares itself about the tagging. The reason why such a mode may work, is because if you're a mood-type listener, then mood wont change drastically with every played track :) Also - the same component could be used for autogenerating playlists which fit certain mood criteria. There are many possibly interesting things which could be done, which are not the point of quicktagger.... but i'm getting off-topic here - if you want to discuss this further, it may make sense to start a seperate topic


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post Oct 16 2007, 21:25
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in what way is the masstagger 'old'? i happened to update foobar today and i am still using masstagger scripts..? unsure.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 11:15
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QUOTE (textured @ Oct 16 2007, 22:25) *
in what way is the masstagger 'old'? i happened to update foobar today and i am still using masstagger scripts..? :unsure:

The "old" possibly refers to the last released version, not to what you do with your internet connection.

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- ability to add/modify more than one tag at once. It comes down to adding MassTagger scripts to the context menu, which was my request I've mentioned above.

If you want configurable contextmenu in masstagger, then why do you post this request in Quicktagger-thread instead of in a Masstagger-thread? Are you proposing to "add masstagger to quicktagger" instead of "add contextmenu-options to masstagger"? If yes, could it be that this doesnt make any sense at all?

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QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 17 2007, 12:15) *
QUOTE (textured @ Oct 16 2007, 22:25) *

in what way is the masstagger 'old'? i happened to update foobar today and i am still using masstagger scripts..? unsure.gif

The "old" possibly refers to the last released version, not to what you do with your internet connection.


i was only confused cuz masstagger is still included in the optional components. but thanks for the sarcasm. possibly. incidentally i just transferred all the overlapping features between masstagger and quick tagger.. it took like three minutes and cleaned up the list masstagger scripts a bit.

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QUOTE (textured @ Oct 18 2007, 00:10) *
i was only confused cuz masstagger is still included in the optional components. but thanks for the sarcasm. possibly. incidentally i just transferred all the overlapping features between masstagger and quick tagger.. it took like three minutes and cleaned up the list masstagger scripts a bit.

Well, even though masstagger is currently being bundled in the installer, not much has happened to it for.... whatever really long time.... it is seen as an old/obsolete component by some.... mainly because it isn't up-to-date with current development paradigms.... one out of many examples: it completely lacks any preview.... with the result, that quite a few users experienced mass-destruction of their metadata, because a script didnt work as expected. Sure, you can argue with the "make test-backups first and try it on them before doing the real thing".... right, but the point would be "why is that even necessary? shouldn't i know beforehand, what a component will do to my files?". And this is just one example - masstagger has various other issues.

As for transfering masstagger scripts to quicktagger... that was exactly the point when i conceptualized Quick Tagger..... doing simple things quick and easy, without all the options and complexity bloat of masstagger.... one doesn't even need to care about organization of scripts into groups.... that happens automatically. Its how IMHO good software should work: you just tell it what you want, and the software does all the work for you with predictable results. The predictability-property is also the reason why the menu-structure is like "Quick Tagger ---> Set <Rating> to ---> 1". It acts as a replacement for the lack of a preview: the user is told exactly what will happen and it makes the interface self-explaining.

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post Oct 18 2007, 08:24
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Thanks Peter for this component.

QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 18 2007, 00:25) *
Its how IMHO good software should work: you just tell it what you want, and the software does all the work for you with predictable results. The predictability-property is also the reason why the menu-structure is like "Quick Tagger ---> Set <Rating> to ---> 1". It acts as a replacement for the lack of a preview: the user is told exactly what will happen and it makes the interface self-explaining.

Agreed. But an [optional] flat menu structure would be helpful and make clicking life way easier:

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Quick Tagger
  Set field1 to a
  Set field1 to b
  Separator
  Set field2 to a
  Set field2 to b

Yes I know we can assign keyboard shortcuts.

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post Oct 18 2007, 16:22
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QUOTE (Squeller @ Oct 18 2007, 09:24) *
Agreed. But an [optional] flat menu structure would be helpful and make clicking life way easier:

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Quick Tagger
  Set field1 to a
  Set field1 to b
  Separator
  Set field2 to a
  Set field2 to b

Yes I know we can assign keyboard shortcuts.

Interesting idea. One could also make this a bit more automatic by turning such an option into "show flat menu-structure if number of actions is below N". I'm just not sure, if its worth the added complexity or if there are possible problem-scenarios. Will need to think about this further, before deciding if it would make sense from my POV.

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- Peter   Quick Tagger   Oct 16 2007, 15:39
- - foosion   The configuration for the Quick Tagger can be foun...   Oct 16 2007, 15:44
- - q-stankovic   Had a first look: A very sweet and useful tool...   Oct 16 2007, 15:50
- - pirlouy   I don't have menu Tool > Tagging. I suppose...   Oct 16 2007, 16:31
|- - Peter   QUOTE (pirlouy @ Oct 16 2007, 17:31) I do...   Oct 16 2007, 16:50
|- - Valery_Kondakoff   QUOTE (Peter @ Oct 16 2007, 18:50) QUOTE ...   Jan 4 2008, 17:27
|- - eddy@   QUOTE Excuse me, please, but I don't have the ...   Jan 4 2008, 18:19
|- - Valery_Kondakoff   QUOTE (eddy@ @ Jan 4 2008, 20:19) Because...   Jan 4 2008, 18:51
- - q-stankovic   I did some testing and it works well. The most imp...   Oct 16 2007, 19:31
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Oct 16 2007, 20...   Oct 16 2007, 19:46
- - q-stankovic   @Lyx To understand what you mean could you descri...   Oct 16 2007, 20:08
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Oct 16 2007, 21...   Oct 16 2007, 20:20
|- - textured   in what way is the masstagger 'old'? i hap...   Oct 16 2007, 21:25
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (textured @ Oct 16 2007, 22:25) in ...   Oct 17 2007, 11:15
|- - the in sound from way out   QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 17 2007, 02:15) QUOTE -...   Oct 17 2007, 19:13
|- - textured   QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 17 2007, 12:15) QUOTE (t...   Oct 17 2007, 23:10
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (textured @ Oct 18 2007, 00:10) i w...   Oct 17 2007, 23:25
|- - Squeller   Thanks Peter for this component. QUOTE (Lyx ...   Oct 18 2007, 08:24
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (Squeller @ Oct 18 2007, 09:24) Agr...   Oct 18 2007, 16:22
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 18 2007, 17:22) Interest...   Oct 18 2007, 18:07
|- - Squeller   QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 18 2007, 19:07) After th...   Oct 18 2007, 18:16
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (Squeller @ Oct 18 2007, 19:16) Yes...   Oct 19 2007, 00:33
|- - Squeller   QUOTE (Lyx @ Oct 19 2007, 01:33) since i ...   Oct 19 2007, 05:49
- - the in sound from way out   Thanks for this long awaited component. I posted ...   Oct 16 2007, 22:01
- - xtr   For mass-tagging of styles, moods, genres... in a ...   Oct 16 2007, 23:37
- - Shinsou   is it possible to disable confirmations when using...   Oct 18 2007, 08:44
|- - Squeller   QUOTE (Shinsou @ Oct 18 2007, 09:44) is i...   Oct 18 2007, 09:25
|- - Shinsou   QUOTE (Squeller @ Oct 18 2007, 11:25) QUO...   Oct 18 2007, 13:04
- - --pv--   Hello, This component looks so simple so I even do...   Oct 22 2007, 18:48
- - Frank Bicking   Did you bother to read the description of this com...   Oct 22 2007, 18:56
|- - audiolover   QUOTE (Frank Bicking @ Oct 22 2007, 09:56...   Jan 7 2008, 09:15
- - --pv--   thanks for pointing me to the right direction. Of ...   Oct 22 2007, 21:54
- - Papa   Hi, is it possible to apply an option like "d...   Oct 23 2007, 16:57
- - LXtreme   Thanks for this useful component! I was just ...   Oct 25 2007, 16:58
|- - LXtreme   QUOTE (LXtreme @ Oct 25 2007, 16:58) Than...   Dec 3 2007, 10:31
|- - JadeElephant   QUOTE (LXtreme @ Dec 3 2007, 04:31) QUOTE...   Jan 6 2008, 16:31
- - Jose Hidalgo   Hi everybody, I have some trouble with Quick Tagg...   Nov 27 2007, 18:51
- - q-stankovic   Why do you need +1/-1 rating functions? If you f.e...   Nov 27 2007, 20:21
- - Jose Hidalgo   Let me answer you with a question : why do people ...   Nov 27 2007, 21:01
- - q-stankovic   There are so many things i would like to have...   Nov 27 2007, 21:24
- - Jose Hidalgo   I'm not asking to change anything : I'm ju...   Nov 27 2007, 23:15
|- - foosion   QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 27 2007, 23:15)...   Nov 28 2007, 14:06
- - Jose Hidalgo   Thanks foosion, now that's clear. If both sim...   Nov 28 2007, 14:38
- - Lyx   Usability issue: If you invoke "more......   Dec 29 2007, 08:59
- - foosion   foo_quicktag does not depend on foo_converter or f...   Jan 4 2008, 19:04
|- - Valery_Kondakoff   QUOTE (foosion @ Jan 4 2008, 21:04) foo_q...   Jan 4 2008, 19:30
|- - foosion   QUOTE (foosion @ Jan 4 2008, 21:04) foo_q...   Jan 4 2008, 20:19
|- - pstrg   Quick Tagger is not working for me. To experiment ...   Jan 5 2008, 21:37
|- - Frank Bicking   If you had bothered to read this thread, you would...   Jan 5 2008, 21:43
|- - pstrg   QUOTE (Frank Bicking @ Jan 5 2008, 18:43)...   Jan 5 2008, 23:18
- - Peter   A bug in preferences page tree handling code is pr...   Jan 4 2008, 20:18
- - m00zikD00d   Sorry if I missed this question somewhere else, or...   Apr 18 2008, 08:05
- - thuan   It works fine for me, if I set the action type to ...   Apr 18 2008, 09:22
- - m00zikD00d   Thank you very much, I feel like an idiot now. I ...   Apr 18 2008, 10:07
|- - HellMind   There is not Preferences / Tools / Tagging / Quick...   Oct 18 2008, 09:11
- - Reflection   QUOTE Quick Tagger is tailor-made to support scena...   Dec 5 2008, 01:15
|- - cicom3nd3z   QUOTE (Reflection @ Dec 5 2008, 02:15) Is...   Dec 6 2008, 03:20
|- - Reflection   QUOTE (cicom3nd3z @ Dec 5 2008, 18:20) QU...   Dec 6 2008, 05:20
- - start78   I found a strange interference between rating with...   Jan 3 2009, 10:05
- - Eliteforce   Could you please add the commands: set <tag...   Feb 15 2009, 20:55
|- - ojdo   QUOTE (Eliteforce @ Feb 15 2009, 20:55) T...   Feb 15 2009, 21:11
- - haazetzet   hi. i'm using the <BPM> field as a ratin...   May 26 2009, 22:28
- - raidsan   Is it possible to write a tag use ID3v2.3 UTF-16? ...   May 31 2009, 06:20
- - darrel   Version 1.0.2 doesn't work for me with this er...   Mar 2 2010, 20:50
- - Yirkha   You have probably accidentally renamed the compone...   Mar 3 2010, 21:18
|- - darrel   QUOTE (Yirkha @ Mar 3 2010, 12:18) You ha...   Mar 7 2010, 19:41
- - laite   Would it be possible that when selecting "Qui...   Jul 7 2010, 18:02
- - thorbeck   If one is using Masstagger scripts the process wou...   Aug 31 2010, 10:09
- - ventolinmono   Hello I have Quick Tagger installed. My ratings d...   Mar 27 2012, 23:22
- - tpijag   Link is nearly 5 years old. This from the foo_play...   Mar 28 2012, 00:43
|- - ventolinmono   QUOTE (tpijag @ Mar 27 2012, 17:43) Link ...   Mar 28 2012, 01:06
- - Anakunda   HI! Here's a suggestion for foo_quicktagge...   Jun 26 2012, 14:51
- - sharpedge   Hi there, I use Quicktagger as a rating tool (fro...   Sep 5 2012, 10:49
- - Daeron   Set 'Require confirmation before processing mo...   Sep 5 2012, 10:54
|- - sharpedge   QUOTE (Daeron @ Sep 5 2012, 11:54) Set ...   Sep 6 2012, 11:44
- - sevenarts   Is there a way to batch-change multiple tag fields...   Sep 5 2012, 12:22
- - marc2003   i'm not sure how useful it will be as i don...   Sep 5 2012, 14:37
- - coolidge   hello all, I want to use stars instead of number ...   Nov 27 2012, 10:26
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|- - coolidge   QUOTE (marc2003 @ Nov 27 2012, 11:38) if ...   Nov 27 2012, 10:53
- - marc2003   you just need to replace %rating% in that snippet ...   Nov 27 2012, 11:01
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