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morelli
post Jan 26 2003, 21:37
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Hi Dibrom!
This is off topic, but since youre around here much i
figured this was a good place to try and contact you..

Can you tell me the exact name of that corticosteroid,
BC-A over at r3mix-forums talked about when hearing loss occurs
(LINK: http://www.audiofora.com/yabbse/index.php?...;threadid=3397)?
I was told from forum members overhere at hydrogen that
you knew about it and also talked about it awhile ago.

Its been well over 2 months since i had a damaging ear-
incident with my headphones (ouch & aaaaaaargh!) and couldnt
do anything practically about it (did'nt know what to do),
since the doctors wont give me any kind of support
unless i have 60-70% hearing loss they said!
What would mean i'd be needing hearing aids and everything
would be waaay too late for me by then anyways,
music is very important to me and the last two months
i had to do without, can you imagine ?
i dont ask you to, anyway

i need some kind of suport,

NVI: My TNE appointment i made 1.5 months ago is not until mid
febraury only,
and they could only give me a hearing test.
If any damage has occured they can do nothing about it
except for telling me what to do to prevent further loss
they told me. I could've figured that out myself!
Why didnt i just severely broke my right leg
or something, that would've certainly healed !
mus ic will never be the ...... (sob sob sob..)

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post Jan 27 2003, 00:04
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Hey...

look at the bright side. Now you can download 128k cbr Xing rips all you want and not notice any difference.

More music choices!
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post Jan 27 2003, 00:08
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that's not very funny at all xterm....

i hope some people here can give you good answers about this morelli. untill then, google is always your friend smile.gif...
be well.
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post Jan 27 2003, 00:24
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Hi.

not funny at all was my first reaction too SK1,
google doesnt give me much feedback.
searching is a real B...,
certainly because its somthing medical.
theres a flood of info, nothing about corticoids
that are in medicine for ear-use.

to everyone who cares,
if your ears are prcious to you,

USE THOSE HEADPHONES WITH CARE!!
AND BE CAREFULL WITH AUDIO EDITORS
THAT PLAY FILES THAT DO NOT CONTAIN
AUDIO (IT HURTS!) !!

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post Jan 27 2003, 00:33
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MEDLINE is a medical scientific database. Google for "medline" and do a search there.


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post Jan 27 2003, 01:50
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If you do READ the mentioned forum, you will encouter a part that says something about people with damaged hearing being more sensitive to certain artifacts/frequencies than others. Seems their pychoacoustic curve is changed, and sometimes it may be compensated with flat eq calibration. Unfortunately it goes against lossy encoder common tricks, which are based in psychoacoustic models based from an average person hearing.

What was the name of that curve? I always forget...


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post Jan 27 2003, 03:41
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Hi there Morelli

sorry about your Problem, since thiz sylvester (New Year 2003) a friend of me shoot a gun over my head and now i have a light tinitus in my ears, i know how it is, but with 60 - 70 percent of loss hearing .... ouu ):


how is your tinitus ? have you one ? or is it so, that you hear the whole things quieter without the beeing of a tinitus in your ears ?

dont misunderstand my questions but i have to know, what i do to my ears if i go often to Discotheks. ( i go only in there with small ear-muffs, but anyway)

to your Questions: I have links for ear problems and a link where you can test (webbased) your hearing for yourself.

(i have read at a medicine site (i dont know where, a lot time is passed) that corticosteroid can favour the loss in hearing or it can help to heal.
depends on the person. so a 50/50% chance is there)


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginf...pdi/202017.html = a description of corticosteroid (its about ear infections an more)

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ = i think there might be add. info on that corticosteroid.
http://www.earinfosite.org/ = i think there might be add. info on that corticosteroid.
http://www.lhh.org/ = i think there might be add. info on that corticosteroid.

http://www.tinnituspage.org/ = Something about Vitamin A = a alternative of corticosteroid i think



http://www.digital-recordings.com/hearing-.../ht_help_p.html = The hearing test (requires Java runtime)

i hope the links will help a little


Here are my results (but i think my equipment is not good enought for this test so i dont know)

http://mcmdrabek.bei.t-online.de/Hoertest.jpg

as you can see my right ear is worse than the left and thats horrible for me bcause i can hear the diference everywhere.


I feel with you, wish you the best and hope you ears will be better soon


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post Jan 27 2003, 03:52
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This is a copy from the other `hearing loss' thread. I'm afraid to tell you that once your ear is damaged, it's permanent. The condition symptoms are (in this case) a constant `ringing' in the ear (especially at night and first thing in morning) and an `over sensitive' response to high frequency causing discomfort.

Example: that 16kHz from the television set `high voltage' horizontal deflection circuit will become apparent and bother you. If the condition is acute (like it just happened) your hearing could have a temporary `threshold shift' (like putting in an attenuator) as well.



Content from prior post:


The condition which musicians get from over-exposure is called Tinnitus (or tin ear):


Main Entry: tin·ni·tus

Etymology: Latin, ringing, tinnitus, from tinnire to ring, of imitative origin

Date: 1843
: a sensation of noise (as a ringing or roaring) that is caused by a bodily condition (as a disturbance of the auditory nerve or wax in the ear) and can usually be heard only by the one affected.


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post Jan 27 2003, 04:33
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A Copy ???

i wrote it before three minutes


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post Jan 27 2003, 10:52
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Xterm, the posting rules don't allow me to fully express what I think of you and your post.
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post Jan 27 2003, 13:54
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QUOTE (KikeG @ Jan 27 2003 - 11:52 AM)
Xterm, the posting rules don't allow me to fully express what I think of you and your post.

xterm is now out because of continuous trolling which continued despite of warnings.


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post Jan 27 2003, 14:03
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Xterm,

mod.rcmix active(delete_offending_content);

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post Jan 27 2003, 16:08
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Hey why someone edited my post ?

"Here are my results (but i think my equipment is not good enought for this test so i dont know)"

!!Here was my Picture!!


is showing pictures not allowed here ?


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post Jan 27 2003, 16:18
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QUOTE (TarX @ Jan 27 2003 - 04:08 PM)
Hey why someone edited my post ?

"Here are my results (but i think my equipment is not good enought for this test so i dont know)"

!!Here was my Picture!!


is showing pictures not allowed here ?

I don't know who edited your post but yes: we do not like large pictures. A link should be used instead. Some people are still using dial-up.
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post Jan 27 2003, 16:43
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Tarx,

It wasnt me! - but feel free to link to your image, but please dont embed it!

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post Jan 27 2003, 17:04
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It was me. I just changed <IMG> to <URL>. It goes without saying that large images should only be linked to.
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post Jan 27 2003, 18:32
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ah ok good to know

i was just wondering about it.


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post Jan 28 2003, 03:36
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Hi.
thanks for the extensive info and good links TarX!
i will start reading it all tomorrow..

and the rest too!
thanks alot !


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post Jan 28 2003, 07:37
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post Jan 28 2003, 20:11
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QUOTE (jesseg @ Jan 28 2003 - 06:37 AM)
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post Jan 29 2003, 05:46
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Hi, as I have already started, I am a medical doctor (altough not an ear specialist), I have asked my ear specialist buddies and they have come up with this:
The corticosteroid most used for acoustic trauma (damage to the ears due to loud sounds) is prednisone, 80 mg/day for ten days. More serious cases would need customized doses and SHOULD see an specialist.
Hope this is of any help.


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I forgot to mention...
Corticosteroids of any kind should not be used for long periods of time without expert advise and should not be stopped abruptly (there is a weaning period of decreasing doses).
In any case, the assistance of a health care professional is advised.


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post Jan 29 2003, 09:18
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Please correct me if this never happens, but anyways... my friend - who i also trained as a soundguy he helped run a 108,000+ watt foh position - and he had his hearing "damaged" by a stupid gun close ot the head type of thing, totaly stupid to happen but hey sometimes people are (cough) drunkass crazy and stuff just goes off, whatcha going to do...

mabey it's a wax backup like what happened with ryan. he went to the doctor and had one of those wax removal candles done on each ear, and instantly it was night and day for his, pretty cool. stinking gross tho, fricken amazing amount of wax comes out of there man... i saw it on learning channel too once :x

worth asking your doc about B)
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post Jan 29 2003, 23:29
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QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jan 29 2003 - 04:46 AM)
Hi, as I have already started, I am a medical doctor (altough not an ear specialist), I have asked my ear specialist buddies and they have come up with this:
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i'm also a doctor, since i agree with the fact the one must go to ear specialist giving corticosteroides doses for people to use is not right since you should notice the corticosteroids are given in various way that depends on the pathologies and can not be generalized to everyone

so you must see a specialist of the ear that can fisrt diagnose the ear loss (frequencies) and the intensity of the disease , therefore a treatment can be given according to the tests that are made

old aged patients have sometimes secretions that blocks the sound to rich the inner ear

so: a good advice is to see a specialist of the ear
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post Jan 29 2003, 23:41
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i know this is off topic, but since your a doctor im wondering - what did you think of bush's address (if you watched it) when he talked about healthcare?? just talk or do you think he and congress will actually umm... do something??
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