.Ogg Vorbis aotuv, Question for Aoyumi |
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.Ogg Vorbis aotuv, Question for Aoyumi |
 Dec 27 2009, 00:38
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 17-October 07 From: Cyprus Member No.: 47932  |
Hi there vorbis fans
 Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release? |
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Dec 28 2009, 17:56
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 Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
With news or without It looks like vorbis is dead anyway. At least in regard of actively improvement the quality of the codec.
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Dec 28 2009, 18:05
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 Group: Developer Posts: 2980 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
AoTuV is too mature to be "actively improved" IMHO.
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Dec 29 2009, 09:47
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Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Belarus, Vitebsk Member No.: 16992 |
The best measure of the maturity degree is tests like these ;-)
This post has been edited by alter4: Dec 29 2009, 09:52 |
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Dec 29 2009, 15:23
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 Group: Members Posts: 1593 Joined: 24-March 02 From: Revere, MA Member No.: 1607 |
QUOTE Hi there vorbis fans smile.gif Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release? Everything in the AoTuV tunings will be merged into the main line source for the next major release of libvorbis 1.3.0. That's about it. On top of that an HA forum member compiled an SSE Optimized version of AoTuV tunings and created a 32-bit x86 Linux compile that's about 3x faster then the standard build. QUOTE The best measure of the maturity degree is tests like these ;-) This test does not appear to be a very good indication of anything? This "added noise" everyone talks about is called "Noise Normalization". It's trivial for the lower quality values. It's not used beyond a -q 6. I am not of the impression that one should just keep tuning the encoder consistently as it may cause regressions especially if everything is not double checked and implemented in the mainline after further testing. I am not stating that AoTuV tunings are not very good, because they are. I am just stating there is possibility that might happen with some samples sometimes. This post has been edited by HotshotGG: Dec 29 2009, 15:35 -------------------- College student/IT Assistant
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Jan 2 2010, 01:13
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QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Dec 29 2009, 06:23)  QUOTE Hi there vorbis fans smile.gif Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release? Everything in the AoTuV tunings will be merged into the main line source for the next major release of libvorbis 1.3.0. That's about it. On top of that an HA forum member compiled an SSE Optimized version of AoTuV tunings and created a 32-bit x86 Linux compile that's about 3x faster then the standard build. Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released? |
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Jan 2 2010, 22:31
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Group: Members Posts: 1593 Joined: 24-March 02 From: Revere, MA Member No.: 1607 |
QUOTE Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released? It depends on what projects Xiph is working on and what coincides with their schedule. I would think Monty would be the only one merging the tunings into the main branch, but he is still busy working on Theora. Unless the job is left up to someone else now or another contributor I am really not sure. I wouldn't put a time stamp on anything though! 
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Mar 14 2010, 19:49
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 Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-February 04 From: tokyo, japan Member No.: 12207 |
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100314] (wip) released
 *Probably "wip" mean "Work In Progress". QUOTE This is a test version including an important change of a plan included in in a next version. [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0 ] With fixed bug of "-ignore_length" in venc. And, don't use less or equal -q-1 on 32kHz, libvorbis is buggy  download: http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/test.html This post has been edited by madoka@ex-sounds: Mar 14 2010, 20:06 -------------------- <name>madoka</name>
<uri>http://codecs.ex-sounds.net/</uri> |
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Mar 15 2010, 22:40
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Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 14-April 09 Member No.: 68951 |
Great
! Very happy to see progress however slight!!Can't wait until this is properly released with source code and all. This post has been edited by Xanikseo: Mar 15 2010, 22:42 |
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Mar 26 2010, 14:15
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QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Jan 2 2010, 14:31) QUOTE Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released? It depends on what projects Xiph is working on and what coincides with their schedule. I would think Monty would be the only one merging the tunings into the main branch, but he is still busy working on Theora. Unless the job is left up to someone else now or another contributor I am really not sure. I wouldn't put a time stamp on anything though! For various reasons, a number of bug fixes and coupled surround support bumped their way way to the head of the line ahead of the AoTuV merge work. I'm pointing this out here just so no one will think that the work isn't happening— it just hasn't happened yet. |
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Mar 27 2010, 18:25
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 17-October 07 From: Cyprus Member No.: 47932 |
Xiph's and aotuv's work is always appreciated, and is always good to hear positive news about aotuv's .ogg project
I hope that day won't be far away We all looking forward for the next release |
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May 17 2010, 17:21
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Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 14-April 09 Member No.: 68951 |
New version of aoTuV released. Click
Download from here. Woot! 5.1 aotuv! EDIT: Is anyone else getting problems trying to encode at any quality setting above q0? It just defaults to q0, no matter what you tell it to do! EDIT2: Apparently it's already been answered. I have to say I find this ridiculous! This post has been edited by Xanikseo: May 17 2010, 17:40 |
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May 17 2010, 17:28
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Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 26-January 10 Member No.: 77538 |
will wait for john33
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May 18 2010, 22:44
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 17-October 07 From: Cyprus Member No.: 47932 |
How do you know Xanikseo that it just defaults to q0?
Is it mentioned anywhere? lets hold on and wait to see what other guys would say |
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May 18 2010, 22:48
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 Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Republic of Srps Member No.: 39225 |
From aoTuV 20100516.txt
QUOTE [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1 ] If you try to encode with some other quality, it defaults to 0. -------------------- --------------------
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May 18 2010, 22:58
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 17-October 07 From: Cyprus Member No.: 47932 |
QUOTE (capma @ May 18 2010, 15:48) From aoTuV 20100516.txt QUOTE [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1 ] If you try to encode with some other quality, it defaults to 0. Hmmm guess we need to wait longer for the proper version then |
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May 31 2010, 07:12
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Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 11-December 02 From: Alberta Member No.: 4049 |
from Monty blog, aoTuv is getting merge to the Vorbis main trunk soon
also the new WebM announcement from Google is a really good news to Vorbis, maybe more hardware player will support it now , things are getting excited againwow my last visit was: Jan 16 2008, 12:47, it has been awhile, kinda quiet in the audio front lately. This post has been edited by Mgz: May 31 2010, 07:13 -------------------- still LAME 3.96.1 --preset extreme -q 0 -V 0 -m s at least until 2005.
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May 31 2010, 10:48
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 17-October 07 From: Cyprus Member No.: 47932 |
give us links
you got any links to the websites you are refering to so we can read also? |
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Jun 1 2010, 17:52
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QUOTE (Nicos @ May 31 2010, 10:48) give us links you got any links to the websites you are refering to so we can read also? I would call that anything but »soon«: http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/50683.html...=138235#t138235 |
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Jul 11 2010, 17:47
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Group: Developer Posts: 2980 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100711] (for tester)
Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2 http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/test.html |
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Jul 15 2010, 13:11
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Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 14-April 09 Member No.: 68951 |
Good good keep the updates coming, I'm looking forward to a full release with source code and all
. I see slowly more q values are being accepted, now we're up to q2. Hopefully it won't take too long to accept all values of q up to 10...
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Jul 15 2010, 17:43
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Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 8-July 09 From: Brussels Member No.: 71300 |
I ABX tested this latest test build against the killer samples found at the following thread started by sauvage78:
Multi-Codec Listening Tests At q2 I could still easily ABX the Autechre, Abfahrt and Kraftwerk samples. Especially Autechre I could ABX at every try. |
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Jul 15 2010, 18:06
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Group: Developer Posts: 2980 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 49183 |
Cranberries___zombie_partial2 is also easy at -q2.
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Jul 18 2010, 11:49
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Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 28-October 03 Member No.: 9505 |
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100718] (for tester)
aoTuV [20100718] (r510) [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2 ] -------------------- Sorry for my English.
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Jul 18 2010, 18:28
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QUOTE (OggY68 @ Jul 16 2010, 01:43) I ABX tested this latest test build against the killer samples found at the following thread started by sauvage78: Multi-Codec Listening Tests At q2 I could still easily ABX the Autechre, Abfahrt and Kraftwerk samples. Especially Autechre I could ABX at every try. Unfortunately I do not make those samples a target this time. Therefore, I may not anticipate the so big improvement with those samples. QUOTE (lvqcl @ Jul 16 2010, 02:06) Cranberries___zombie_partial2 is also easy at -q2. In comparison with the former (beta) version, how? You please tell me about it if you feel that it is bad than before. QUOTE (rt87 @ Jul 18 2010, 19:49) aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100718] (for tester) aoTuV [20100718] (r510) [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2 ] This is a bugfix version of "20100711". The new problem by the specific pattern in the previous version was fixed. This post has been edited by Aoyumi: Jul 18 2010, 18:31 |
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