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Creating a mood-scanner, Possible?
odyssey
post Feb 12 2008, 12:42
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My foobar2000 just went from Hardcore "Scooter" to gentle "Enya"... And I thought "We live in 2008, it MUST be possible to analyze audio data for it's energy and generally adapt a simple category for it, something like "sad/romantic/happy/energy".

I know this has been discussed several times already, and I'm not looking for a bunch of posts about this being impossible, but positive thoughts about how this could be done! This will never replace the need for genres and maybe BPM etc., but it could be a great addition to existing meta-data.

In a seperate thread we can discuss the user-interface that can handle all this wink.gif


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post Feb 12 2008, 13:06
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QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Feb 12 2008, 12:53) *
Amarok has a moodbar, however it does not "judge" the song. I used it once for testing, but I've got it deactivated. More info is available at http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar.

YES. It's something exactly like this I'm reffering to (I just forgot to mention it in my initial post)

QUOTE (kotekzot @ Feb 12 2008, 12:56) *
almost everything is possible, but there are many things that define if it's going to happen or not:
how useful is it?
how easy is it to implement?
how well is it going to work?
and the answers to these questions don't look favorable.

Why not? It needs a userinterface of course, but it should be simple, just like my proposal above. (Maybe it could already works with "facets" for foobar2000 if this could be stored in a tag)

QUOTE (ionicism @ Feb 12 2008, 12:58) *
There are programs like Moody, but those only let you choose colors corresponding to moods and write them to tags. This would be an excellent idea, if someone could find a way to reliably implement it.

Moody is a nice concept, and it might work if we have a shared database to submit info to. For manually doing this for my 22000 track collection is just tedious. Actually I have several great ideas for a database like this, but I need to convince a developer about this first wink.gif

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post Feb 12 2008, 13:10
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QUOTE (odyssey @ Feb 12 2008, 15:06) *
QUOTE (kotekzot @ Feb 12 2008, 12:56) *

almost everything is possible, but there are many things that define if it's going to happen or not:
how useful is it?
how easy is it to implement?
how well is it going to work?
and the answers to these questions don't look favorable.

Why not? It needs a userinterface of course, but it should be simple, just like my proposal above. (Maybe it could already works with "facets" for foobar2000 if this could be stored in a tag)

making a tool to properly analyze the 'mood' of a song is many times more complex than any fancy ui.

besides, same songs could produce different feeling in different people. the most sensible solution (based on the questions i stated above) would be a quick way to tag ('set mood' option in the context menu, perhaps) and add to playlist items for a certain mood.

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- odyssey   Creating a mood-scanner   Feb 12 2008, 12:42
- - LaserSokrates   Amarok has a moodbar, however it does not "ju...   Feb 12 2008, 12:53
- - kotekzot   almost everything is possible, but there are many ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:56
- - ionicism   There are programs like Moody, but those only let ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:58
- - odyssey   QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Feb 12 2008, 12:53...   Feb 12 2008, 13:06
|- - kotekzot   QUOTE (odyssey @ Feb 12 2008, 15:06) QUOT...   Feb 12 2008, 13:10
|- - odyssey   QUOTE (kotekzot @ Feb 12 2008, 13:10) bes...   Feb 12 2008, 13:34
|- - plnelson   There's currently no scientific basis for musi...   Feb 19 2008, 23:44
- - MichaelW   I'm assuming a manually assigned tag isn't...   Feb 12 2008, 13:07
- - kotekzot   so we've moved on from automated audio identif...   Feb 12 2008, 13:51
|- - odyssey   QUOTE (kotekzot @ Feb 12 2008, 13:51) so ...   Feb 12 2008, 14:13
- - Go2Null   I manually tag mine (not complete), based on the f...   Feb 18 2008, 16:05
- - Zoom   I tend to agree that it is a subjective thing when...   Feb 18 2008, 18:58
|- - SebastianG   The MusicIP mixer is supposedly able to generate ...   Feb 18 2008, 20:32
|- - BrownRB   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Feb 18 2008, 14:32) T...   Feb 21 2008, 14:26
|- - Eli   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Feb 18 2008, 14:32) T...   Feb 21 2008, 16:32
|- - SebastianG   QUOTE (Eli @ Feb 21 2008, 16:32) QUOTE (S...   Feb 22 2008, 10:03
- - tgoose   from http://gjay.sourceforge.net/ QUOTE GJay (Gtk+...   Feb 18 2008, 21:54
- - Emon   Just to illustrate the difficulty, think of songs ...   Feb 20 2008, 01:44
- - Teknojnky   I made a Mediamonkey script that has a dj mode whi...   Feb 20 2008, 02:22
- - digital   . Man, What a HUGE topic! Take the time to ...   Feb 20 2008, 11:25
- - kotekzot   winamp does (or at least did - i haven't used ...   Feb 20 2008, 15:36
- - knutinh   http://www.pandora.com/mgp.shtml The "music ...   Feb 22 2008, 12:24
|- - plnelson   QUOTE (knutinh @ Feb 22 2008, 06:24) http...   Feb 22 2008, 15:10
|- - odyssey   QUOTE (plnelson @ Feb 22 2008, 15:10) Am ...   Feb 22 2008, 16:04
- - ClementFerrand   Hi everyone, I'm well aware that this topic h...   Oct 6 2011, 14:42


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