Comparison : 24bit/192KHz/stereo FLAC vs. APE, How can it be ? |
Comparison : 24bit/192KHz/stereo FLAC vs. APE, How can it be ? |
 Jul 25 2008, 16:55
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troll / ban evasion Group: Banned Posts: 244 Joined: 22-April 08 Member No.: 52991  |
Hi everybody,
I've just made a small comparison between Monkey's Audio 3.99 (Extra High Compression) and FLAC 1.21 (Compression level 8 ), using 24bit/192KHz/stereo files (the files were generated from a vinyl rip). Of course I expected APE to perform slightly better than FLAC, like it usually does for 16bit/44KHz/stereo files (2-3%, maybe even 5%)... but I didn't really expect this !   Take a look at all the file sizes : we're talking about 20% difference here ! The total file size is 1,53 Go for APE vs. 1,88 Go for FLAC. So I don't understand. I'm a genuine FLAC enthusiast (all my files are FLAC), but... how can it be ? Is there something wrong here ? Can we do something to improve all the FLAC file sizes ? Thanks in advance for your explanation. 
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Sep 24 2008, 05:58
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Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 17-April 08 Member No.: 52847 |
i encode my cd. flac compression is close to another codecs, but have greatly fast decoding speed. so flac is my choice.
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foorious Comparison : 24bit/192KHz/stereo FLAC vs. APE Jul 25 2008, 16:55
viniciusferrao MonkeyAudio do not support 192kHz! :confused:
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Curtor QUOTE (viniciusferrao @ Jul 25 2008, 17:4... Jul 26 2008, 02:38 pawelq QUOTE (Curtor @ Jul 25 2008, 21:38) From ... Jul 28 2008, 15:25 Axon My understanding is that the lowest 8-12 bits of a... Jul 26 2008, 00:51 Nick.C QUOTE (Axon @ Jul 26 2008, 00:51) My unde... Jul 27 2008, 17:22 TBeck QUOTE (foorious @ Jul 25 2008, 16:55) Tak... Jul 27 2008, 04:48 foorious Thanks everyone for all your interesting answers.
... Jul 27 2008, 16:38 Dynamic QUOTE (foorious @ Jul 27 2008, 16:38) Oh,... Jul 27 2008, 18:36 Nick.C QUOTE (Dynamic @ Jul 27 2008, 18:36) In c... Jul 27 2008, 20:30 GeSomeone QUOTE (Nick.C @ Jul 27 2008, 21:30) 24/44... Jul 28 2008, 09:17 DARcode QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Jul 28 2008, 10:17) QU... Jul 28 2008, 11:42 TBeck QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Jul 28 2008, 09:17) If... Jul 28 2008, 18:04 bryant QUOTE (TBeck @ Jul 28 2008, 10:04) QUOTE ... Jul 29 2008, 17:17 TBeck QUOTE (bryant @ Jul 29 2008, 17:17) Thank... Jul 29 2008, 20:01 bryant QUOTE (TBeck @ Jul 29 2008, 12:01) QUOTE ... Jul 30 2008, 05:33 TBeck QUOTE (bryant @ Jul 30 2008, 05:33) So, f... Jul 31 2008, 13:01 Dynamic QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Jul 28 2008, 09:17) Se... Jul 28 2008, 19:46 TBeck QUOTE (foorious @ Jul 27 2008, 16:38) Oh,... Jul 27 2008, 18:53 Enig123 I think "anything" here just means no pa... Jul 28 2008, 15:34 pdq If you treat the data as simply a series of values... Jul 28 2008, 16:23 SebastianG This is in response to the original question.
FLA... Jul 28 2008, 18:36 TBeck QUOTE (TBeck @ Jul 29 2008, 20:01) Seems ... Jul 29 2008, 21:49 vpa Could you test TTA too?
It's very quick but gi... Jul 30 2008, 18:39 TBeck QUOTE (vpa @ Jul 30 2008, 18:39) Could yo... Jul 30 2008, 19:28 foorious Just a simple question : do TAK, APE and Optimfrog... Jul 31 2008, 17:49 vpa QUOTE (foorious @ Jul 31 2008, 18:49) BTW... Jul 31 2008, 18:13 GeSomeone QUOTE (foorious @ Jul 31 2008, 18:49) I... Aug 11 2008, 22:56 TBeck QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Aug 11 2008, 22:56) @T... Aug 14 2008, 12:44 TBeck QUOTE (TBeck @ Aug 14 2008, 12:44) I am s... Aug 14 2008, 18:54 GeSomeone QUOTE (TBeck @ Aug 14 2008, 19:54) But wh... Aug 15 2008, 13:19 TBeck QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Aug 15 2008, 13:19) QU... Aug 15 2008, 15:19 foorious Yes GeSomeone, no problem, my question was only ab... Aug 13 2008, 11:51 jcoalson sorry, been traveling a lot lately... it's har... Aug 13 2008, 21:51 foorious Hi josh, thanks for joining in.
I understand your... Aug 13 2008, 23:53 SebastianG I actually tested some LP coefficient quantization... Aug 14 2008, 09:24 SebastianG "[...] but if someone has time to try out seb... Aug 16 2008, 11:12 foorious Are there any upcoming developments on this matter... Sep 17 2008, 22:58 jcoalson QUOTE (foorious @ Sep 17 2008, 16:58) Are... Sep 24 2008, 06:33 foorious Thanks Josh. I just hope you'll keep an eye on... Sep 26 2008, 00:55 foorious Hi there, are there any news on this matter ? It... Mar 25 2009, 00:34 ktf I just noticed the last SVN Flake is on par with M... May 19 2009, 18:36 |
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