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SHM-CD Format: Hype or Hope?, Metallica's New Album
Livy
post Jul 29 2008, 14:06
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There's been a lot of discussion over at SA-CD Net about SHM-CD's and whether the "clearer plastic" technology they use generates any actual improvement in sound quality. Many people simply don't believe that would be possible. Metallica's new album - Death Magnetic - is going to be released in Japan in SHM-CD format.

I'm not very knowledgeable about this area - does anyone here know more or have opinions about SHM-CD?

Edit: I've read that mastering engineer Ted Jansen is going to working on this album - whether as mastering and recording engineer, I don't know.

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Tahnru
post Aug 2 2008, 00:17
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Oh I know! And you can't even make it from the wall to receiver without one of these!

I forgot about bi-wiring ... I guess I'll have to sell my other kidney to pick up the second set. Should I go with another of the same pair as I currently have, or should I upgrade to something better?
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post Aug 2 2008, 01:36
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QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 2 2008, 01:17) *
...or should I upgrade to something better?


HOLY SHIT!!! I'd love to meet the moron who invented this just to tell him how stupid he is.
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post Aug 2 2008, 12:00
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QUOTE (me7 @ Aug 2 2008, 02:36) *
QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 2 2008, 01:17) *
...or should I upgrade to something better?


HOLY SHIT!!! I'd love to meet the moron who invented this just to tell him how stupid he is.


Why is he stupid?

Selling a product where the cost of purchasing the item (or manufacturing in one or two cases) is a very small fraction of the retail price does not look stupid to me. Significant costs are going to be in the marketing and this needs to be effective for consumers of expensive audiophile cables. It does not matter much what those who are not consumers think of the marketing.

I would suggest that the consumers of expensive audiophile may well be described as stupid in most cases but I can see no reason to assume stupidity on the part of the suppliers.
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post Aug 2 2008, 16:34
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QUOTE (honestguv @ Aug 2 2008, 13:00) *
Why is he stupid?

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I would suggest that the consumers of expensive audiophile may well be described as stupid in most cases but I can see no reason to assume stupidity on the part of the suppliers.

The stupid one IMHO is that Positive Feedback Editor. His review is ridiculous!


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post Aug 2 2008, 18:13
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QUOTE (Silversight @ Aug 2 2008, 17:34) *
The stupid one IMHO is that Positive Feedback Editor. His review is ridiculous!

This is still my favorite quote:

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In extended listening sessions, I found the cables' greatest strength to be its PRAT. Simply put these are very danceable cables. Music playing through them results in the proverbial foot-tapping scene with the need or desire to get up and move. Great swing and pace blink.gif —these cables smack that right on the nose big time.

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danceable bi-wiring with a great swing and pace:


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- Livy   SHM-CD Format: Hype or Hope?   Jul 29 2008, 14:06
- - odyssey   I quickly found this rather amusing thread elsewhe...   Jul 29 2008, 14:12
|- - Fandango   QUOTE (odyssey @ Jul 29 2008, 15:12) I qu...   Jul 29 2008, 17:07
|- - Bodhi   QUOTE (odyssey @ Jul 29 2008, 15:12) A di...   Aug 2 2008, 23:09
- - Rain   Does it matter? The album's going to be as lou...   Jul 29 2008, 15:01
- - unfortunateson   bits are bits.   Jul 29 2008, 18:43
- - giopiar   This is a semplification, but you could imagine an...   Jul 29 2008, 20:48
- - .halverhahn   Digital data are media independent. Even you write...   Aug 1 2008, 22:27
- - Sebastian Mares   I once wrote an e-mail to Stereo or some other mag...   Aug 1 2008, 23:02
- - Tahnru   I'm going to buy one of these, draw a green ri...   Aug 1 2008, 23:23
|- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 2 2008, 00:23) What d...   Aug 1 2008, 23:55
|- - uzernaam   QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 2 2008, 00:23) ... My...   Oct 17 2010, 10:56
- - Tahnru   Oh I know! And you can't even make it fro...   Aug 2 2008, 00:17
|- - me7   QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 2 2008, 01:17) ...or ...   Aug 2 2008, 01:36
|- - honestguv   QUOTE (me7 @ Aug 2 2008, 02:36) QUOTE (Ta...   Aug 2 2008, 12:00
|- - Silversight   QUOTE (honestguv @ Aug 2 2008, 13:00) Why...   Aug 2 2008, 16:34
||- - Fandango   QUOTE (Silversight @ Aug 2 2008, 17:34) T...   Aug 2 2008, 18:13
||- - honestguv   QUOTE (Silversight @ Aug 2 2008, 17:34) T...   Aug 2 2008, 21:06
|- - greynol   QUOTE (honestguv @ Aug 2 2008, 04:00) I w...   Aug 2 2008, 18:51
- - Egor   Bi-wiring/amping concept itself isn't a bad th...   Aug 2 2008, 08:31
|- - Tahnru   QUOTE (Egor @ Aug 2 2008, 02:31) Bi-wirin...   Aug 6 2008, 06:30
- - greynol   I can assure you that my hyperbole was intentional...   Aug 2 2008, 21:12
|- - honestguv   QUOTE (greynol @ Aug 2 2008, 22:12) I can...   Aug 2 2008, 22:21
- - greynol   No apologies necessary. I wouldn't expect you...   Aug 2 2008, 22:41
- - insane_alien   SHM-CD = SHAM-CD a bit for bit copy is the same n...   Aug 3 2008, 01:47
- - Tahnru   I had wanted to post this to the thread, but I for...   Aug 5 2008, 22:21
- - Axon   A couple of incredibly bizarre threads over at sh....   May 21 2009, 03:00
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|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (WonderSlug @ May 21 2009, 19:50) I...   May 23 2009, 08:57
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