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Anyone else use 320 kbps mp3's?, n00b here. |
Jul 31 2008, 00:28
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Hi, I'm kinda new to compressed audio encoding. . .
My Mp3 player supports mp3, aac, wma, and wav files and after doing a lot of listening to the different lossy formats and bitrates I decided to use 320 mp3's because to my ears they sound almost as good as CD quality, minus the frequency cut off. I'm just wondering if anyone else here uses 320 kbps mp3's at all? I've looked at some other threads and a lot of people say that if you are going to use 320 kbps mp3's you might as well use a lossless codec, and I understand that. (however, I use them because my player doesn't support any compressed lossless format) I've also seen a lot of statements that 320 kbps is a pointless bitrate and something like 256 vbr is the highest thats worth using no matter what. I really don't agree with this, there is definitely an audible difference between 256 CBR or 256 VBR files and 320 files, to my ears anyway. (do I have really good ear's? I'm wondering) I have to admit LAME mp3's can pick up a lot of detail at 256 and 192 kbps, but they still don't sound as good as 320 mp3's. I usually use 320 kbps mp3's, with the exception of fairly simple songs or exceptionally long songs, for which I use 256 kbps. Just wanted to express my opinion and see how many other people use them, peace. So answer the poll if it works. (this is my first post. . . ) I'll check back later. |
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Jul 31 2008, 11:57
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QUOTE Is there any way we can set up a test on this site? for mp3 vs mp3 and AAC vs AAC it should be possible to write an ABX flash 'applet' (or abchr), so just start coding (I can also host it, if that additional bandwidth would be a problem for HA) - this would also help to prevent threads like this poping out or rather making them shorter. I think the simplest way (to avoid coding in flash): a. some serverside language to read variables from GET type of the url (that is probably doable via js as well, dunno) b. playback component allready done in flash, that takes variables as input, some player like http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?about=JW_FLV_Media_Player | js api http://code.jeroenwijering.com/trac/wiki/FlashAPI c. some javascript for controling the (at least) two instances of the player or one instance and make it load different clips via js interface d. js for the buttons, for the math, for filling the X player (if possible) e. some serverside for storing results (user:date:url_tested:abx_results) f. some generic user manipulation script, one could upload samples, test sample lenghts to make everything legal, ect g. abstract: a way to present the test with one url and someuser-results via another url h. abstract: security layer, smart preloading/hidding system for the samples, they need to be in the buffer before the test starts, ect h2. study what js implementation had to offer over flash one - security related mostly. p.s. about b. : with enough abstraction this component could be later replaced with java one for example to load/play some other formats (vorbis maybe). This post has been edited by smok3: Jul 31 2008, 12:12 -------------------- PANIC: CPU 1: Cache Error (unrecoverable - dcache data) Eframe = 0x90000000208cf3b8
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JAKE196 Anyone else use 320 kbps mp3's? Jul 31 2008, 00:28
Fandango When your main playback device for the MP3s is a p... Jul 31 2008, 00:45
incunabula QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 30 2008, 18:28) . . ... Jul 31 2008, 00:47
greynol Yes, lets see some blind test results, JAKE196. Jul 31 2008, 00:51
Kitsuned 320 is a waste of space with no valuable gain in o... Jul 31 2008, 01:31
JAKE196 Sorry, I should have read the rules, I didn't ... Jul 31 2008, 01:55
kornchild2002 QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 30 2008, 18:55) Sorr... Jul 31 2008, 03:35
krabapple QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 30 2008, 20:55) Sorr... Aug 1 2008, 22:21
IgorC QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 30 2008, 20:28) My M... Jul 31 2008, 01:59
shadowking I never use 320k mp3. I suppose some might use it ... Jul 31 2008, 02:06
lesswire Hi JAKE196
I'm also new to HA which by the wa... Jul 31 2008, 03:42
greynol He may as well cut to the chase and ABX -V0 and -b... Jul 31 2008, 03:56
odious_m Only used -b320 for harpsichord. But now I've... Jul 31 2008, 05:47
zombiewerewolf I've never use 320kbps personally, only use it... Jul 31 2008, 06:02
twostar I never have and won't ever encode 320kbps mp3... Jul 31 2008, 07:05
smok3 QUOTE Is there any way we can set up a test on thi... Jul 31 2008, 08:55
j7n QUOTE (smok3 @ Jul 31 2008, 10:55) it sho... Jul 31 2008, 09:48
hlloyge Well, I tend to listen music on the go, on portabl... Jul 31 2008, 09:03
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 31 2008, 01:55) Sorr... Jul 31 2008, 09:27
zorba Do You ever use 320 kbps mp3's?
Yes, often. ... Jul 31 2008, 09:48
smok3 point would be:
a. to support lazy users which c... Jul 31 2008, 10:09
2Bdecided "Can you tell the difference between 256 kbps... Jul 31 2008, 10:46
Slipstreem QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jul 31 2008, 10:46) ... Jul 31 2008, 14:33
JAKE196 "Good for you but that is not what this threa... Jul 31 2008, 16:23
kornchild2002 QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 31 2008, 09:23) ... Jul 31 2008, 16:51
incunabula Not to beat a dead horse, but you have nothing to ... Jul 31 2008, 18:50
JAKE196 I'll test myself then, what specific program s... Jul 31 2008, 21:21
tpijag QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 31 2008, 15:21) I... Jul 31 2008, 21:35
greynol QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 31 2008, 13:21) I wa... Jul 31 2008, 21:57
kornchild2002 QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Jul 31 2008, 14:21) I... Aug 1 2008, 01:01
sld QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 1 2008, 04:21) but i... Aug 1 2008, 21:16
smok3 there is nothing radical in your point of view and... Jul 31 2008, 21:30
Bodhi VBR V0 here! Aug 1 2008, 20:43
Tahnru QUOTE (Bodhi @ Aug 1 2008, 14:43) VBR V0 ... Aug 1 2008, 20:44
Bodhi QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 1 2008, 21:44) QUOTE ... Aug 1 2008, 20:52
Tahnru @ Bodhi
Ahhh! Sorry - I have been watching t... Aug 1 2008, 20:58
Bodhi QUOTE (Tahnru @ Aug 1 2008, 21:58) @ Bodh... Aug 1 2008, 21:05
HotshotGG QUOTE I swear I could tell between a high bitrate ... Aug 1 2008, 22:50
JAKE196 Well, I tried a couple of ABX tests and failed. ... Aug 1 2008, 23:42
Tahnru QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 1 2008, 17:42) Well,... Aug 1 2008, 23:52
JasonQ QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 1 2008, 17:42) Well,... Aug 2 2008, 00:25
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 1 2008, 23:42) One m... Aug 2 2008, 06:52

Bodhi QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Aug 2 2008, 07:52... Aug 2 2008, 07:36


Synthetic Soul QUOTE (Bodhi @ Aug 2 2008, 07:36) Maybe w... Aug 2 2008, 07:59


Bodhi QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Aug 2 2008, 08:59... Aug 2 2008, 08:15

sld QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Aug 2 2008, 13:52... Aug 2 2008, 09:32
Alexxander QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 2 2008, 00:42) ...
I... Aug 2 2008, 09:01
greynol @JAKE196:
Regardless of the result, kudos for tryi... Aug 2 2008, 00:15
kornchild2002 I agree with greynol. Look into using even lower ... Aug 2 2008, 00:28
SpasV Sorry, I am not going to answer the questions in t... Aug 2 2008, 04:21
j7n In comment to the very first post:
I'd use 32... Aug 2 2008, 09:26
JAKE196 Synthetic Soul,
I knew I shouldn't have said ... Aug 5 2008, 03:01
timcupery Jake, I'm just reading over this thread and wa... Aug 5 2008, 05:16
kornchild2002 It is nice that you are conducting blind ABX tests... Aug 5 2008, 06:15
Soap QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Aug 5 2008, 01:15)... Aug 5 2008, 12:30
timcupery QUOTE (Soap @ Aug 5 2008, 07:30) I agree ... Aug 5 2008, 14:13
Soap QUOTE (timcupery @ Aug 5 2008, 09:13) [yo... Aug 5 2008, 15:51
JAKE196 Am I doing ABX tests the wrong way? Well this is t... Aug 6 2008, 03:11
greynol For the record, I believe JAKE196. His ability to... Aug 6 2008, 03:44
kornchild2002 QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 5 2008, 20:11) Am I ... Aug 6 2008, 03:47

Tahnru QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Aug 5 2008, 21:47)... Aug 6 2008, 04:47
Tahnru QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 5 2008, 21:11) Am I ... Aug 6 2008, 04:20
timcupery QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 5 2008, 22:11) I don... Aug 6 2008, 04:31
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 6 2008, 03:11) I don... Aug 6 2008, 07:41
lesswire QUOTE I don't think comparing .mp3's to .w... Aug 6 2008, 03:25
timcupery Rob - I'd agree with you in technicalities.
Bu... Aug 6 2008, 05:07
kornchild2002 QUOTE (timcupery @ Aug 5 2008, 22:07) Rob... Aug 6 2008, 06:41
Tahnru As far as the context for HA is concerned, I am in... Aug 6 2008, 05:28
shadowking I'd like to know what these differences are in... Aug 6 2008, 05:46
smok3 QUOTE note that I am under 20
i belive ~ 25 is the... Aug 6 2008, 08:12
shadowking I think i've just about read enough of this me... Aug 6 2008, 08:36
JAKE196 QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 6 2008, 01:36) I ... Aug 6 2008, 23:25

Synthetic Soul QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 6 2008, 23:25) So ma... Aug 7 2008, 09:18

digital_music Hi, am interested in the general discussion you ar... Aug 9 2008, 00:14

carpman QUOTE (digital_music @ Aug 9 2008, 00:14)... Aug 9 2008, 04:22
DonP QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 6 2008, 02:36) I ... Dec 11 2008, 16:26
Slipstreem Good man! Nobody here is trying to tell you wh... Aug 7 2008, 04:21
JAKE196 Well I've done some more tests and I was surpr... Aug 8 2008, 21:25
kornchild2002 QUOTE (JAKE196 @ Aug 8 2008, 14:25) One d... Aug 8 2008, 23:14
Slipstreem Another person who thinks he knows better than the... Aug 9 2008, 02:58
lesswire QUOTE The actual audio is 'closer' to the ... Aug 9 2008, 04:08
slimserver From following this thread I went ahead and did an... Aug 9 2008, 06:12
mr budzone QUOTE (slimserver @ Aug 9 2008, 07:12) Fr... Aug 9 2008, 11:07
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (digital_music @ Aug 9 2008, 00:14)... Aug 9 2008, 08:36
xSerpentx I always stay away from 320, you never know what i... Dec 13 2008, 02:39
Synthetic Soul QUOTE (xSerpentx @ Dec 13 2008, 01:39) I ... Dec 13 2008, 09:54
bwat47 320 kb/s mp3s are a total waste of space. Feb 21 2009, 16:08
kwanbis This post needs more votes, so it is more represen... Feb 21 2009, 20:56
B7k I have only used Mpeg-1 layer2 (Mp2) @320kbps or A... Apr 14 2009, 07:18
Rei Murasame QUOTE (digital_music @ Aug 9 2008, 00:14)... Jul 3 2009, 21:00
rpp3po QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Jul 3 2009, 22:00) ... Jul 3 2009, 21:30
/mnt QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Jul 3 2009, 21:00) ... Jul 3 2009, 22:57
Eli I use lossless (FLAC) for archiving and ABR ~128 m... Jul 3 2009, 23:07
gorgekko I use VBR. Back in ye olden dayes when MP3s were n... Jul 4 2009, 01:04
Rei Murasame QUOTE (/mnt @ Jul 3 2009, 22:57) QUOTE (R... Jul 4 2009, 03:19
/mnt QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Jul 4 2009, 03:19) ... Jul 4 2009, 12:21
Rei Murasame QUOTE (/mnt @ Jul 4 2009, 12:21) Precho o... Jul 4 2009, 20:03
shadowking 320k for transform codecs is too high because wavp... Jul 4 2009, 16:47
/mnt QUOTE (shadowking @ Jul 4 2009, 16:47) It... Jul 4 2009, 19:18![]() ![]() |
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