Pleasurize Music Foundation, The most credible dynamic range advocacy group so far? |
Pleasurize Music Foundation, The most credible dynamic range advocacy group so far? |
Jan 27 2009, 00:23
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http://www.dynamicrange.de/
This looks pretty good. They have lots of industry contacts, Algorithmix is involved with a professional-looking dynamic range meter (it appears to be a variant of Chromatix's technique, actually), which is already released. They aren't focusing on visual waveform plots (yay) and are instead focusing on industry interaction. |
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Feb 25 2009, 00:13
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The English manual is up now.
It seems to me that they got the translation of the critical part badly wrong: QUOTE In order to determine the official DR value, a song or entire album (16 bit, 44.1 kHz wave format) is scanned. A histogram (loudness distribution diagram) is created with a resolution of 0.01 dB. The RMS – an established loudness measurement standard – is determined by gathering approximately 10,000 pieces of loudness information within a time span of 3 seconds (dB/RMS). From this result, only the loudest 20% is used for determining the average loudness of the loud passages. But according to their German manual, the histogram has 10000 "drawers" (so 0.01 dB * 10000 = 100 dB ~ Dynamic range of 16 bits). Actually, if my tests are right, there are only ~1000 RMS values calculated, one each 3 seconds... Also they seem to have some kind of pop/tick protection, although in the manual they are talking about cases where you should take the DR values on a song-by-song basis and average them. I'd like to have a look at the complete specifications that they promised to release. This post has been edited by Raiden: Feb 25 2009, 00:14 |
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Axon Pleasurize Music Foundation Jan 27 2009, 00:23
vitos It's relieving to find another group aiming to... Jan 27 2009, 18:11
Ron Jones Their dynamic range meter seems interesting enough... Jan 27 2009, 19:47
Canar The neologism "Pleasurize" sounds distin... Jan 27 2009, 21:34
smiler QUOTE (Canar @ Jan 27 2009, 21:34) The ne... Jan 27 2009, 23:11
kjoonlee QUOTE (smiler @ Jan 28 2009, 07:11) QUOTE... Jan 28 2009, 00:17
Canar QUOTE (kjoonlee @ Jan 27 2009, 15:17) Hea... Jan 28 2009, 00:50
Raiden From the web site:
QUOTE 20 February 2009: Release... Feb 20 2009, 22:52
gnypp45 QUOTE (Raiden @ Feb 20 2009, 22:52) From ... Feb 21 2009, 03:37
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Raiden @ Feb 20 2009, 16:52) From ... Feb 23 2009, 01:44
Trippynet Good to see some progress. I take it people here h... Feb 21 2009, 16:19
Raiden Download of the TT Dynamic Range Meter is now avai... Feb 22 2009, 22:20
Axon RMS measurements are typically done with a 50ms wi... Feb 22 2009, 23:51
Raiden Thanks for your response.
I guess the "RMS... Feb 23 2009, 00:08
Axon Where did you see the info referencing "3 sec... Feb 23 2009, 00:19
carpman This may be a dumb question, but is the dynamic ra... Feb 23 2009, 00:29
Raiden QUOTE (Axon @ Feb 23 2009, 00:19) Where d... Feb 23 2009, 00:43
Axon QUOTE (Raiden @ Feb 22 2009, 17:43) It... Feb 23 2009, 01:07
Axon What's the peak info on The Classical? And the... Feb 23 2009, 00:46
carpman Funny you just write that Axon, that's just wh... Feb 23 2009, 00:48
Axon QUOTE (carpman @ Feb 22 2009, 17:48) Funn... Feb 23 2009, 01:12
carpman I think I've figured out what the issue was:
... Feb 23 2009, 01:51
Raiden OK, I think I understood how the algorithm works:
... Feb 23 2009, 02:19
Chromatix QUOTE (Raiden @ Feb 23 2009, 04:19) OK, I... Feb 23 2009, 03:19
Axon QUOTE (Chromatix @ Feb 22 2009, 20:19) If... Feb 23 2009, 05:58
Chromatix I'm not sure I completely trust either manual.... Feb 25 2009, 00:47
Chromatix Continuing:
I've run their offline tool again... Feb 25 2009, 01:23
Raiden They use plain vanilla RMS (no BS.1770) on 3-secon... Feb 25 2009, 01:48
Axon That's bad news, then.
This should be testabl... Feb 25 2009, 09:54
Raiden Version 1.2 is up. The offline tool is still the s... Mar 11 2009, 02:48
Axon QUOTE (Raiden @ Mar 10 2009, 20:48) Versi... Mar 11 2009, 03:24
outscape Good effort but I doubt it will gain any traction.... Mar 11 2009, 03:13
Zilog Jones Just noticed yesterday that 1.3 is out. The offlin... Mar 19 2009, 20:01
Antonski Unfortunately, it is no more free available for do... Aug 2 2009, 22:13
Axon Given the above commentary on TT's algorithm, ... Aug 2 2009, 22:27
carpman They've really shot themselves in the foot by ... Aug 2 2009, 23:03
Antonski QUOTE (Axon @ Aug 3 2009, 00:27) Given th... Aug 2 2009, 23:19
Grunpfnul They way of acting was since my first contact (abo... Aug 2 2009, 23:26
Axon QUOTE (carpman @ Aug 2 2009, 17:03) They... Aug 2 2009, 23:51
carpman Axon, regarding the meters. I understand that ther... Aug 3 2009, 00:16
Grunpfnul QUOTE (Axon)I can't really blame them for this... Aug 3 2009, 01:17
Axon Any sort of fuzzy logic revolving around a committ... Aug 3 2009, 01:20
carpman Thanks Axon. No, that makes sense. I think I may h... Aug 3 2009, 01:23
unfinished.hide I'm sorry to bump this old topic after 4 years... May 23 2013, 23:10
foomark QUOTE (unfinished.hide @ May 24 2013, 00... May 29 2013, 18:42
hlloyge Is there a working link for downloading plugin? Pl... May 30 2013, 10:07
skamp I couldn't find the original zip file, so I ju... May 30 2013, 11:05
hlloyge Thank you, skamp. May 30 2013, 11:33
foomark Wait...this is "only" the foobar2000 com... May 30 2013, 12:19
skamp TT-DR-Install.zip, mirrored on Dropbox in case the... May 30 2013, 13:21
foomark QUOTE (skamp @ May 30 2013, 14:21) TT-DR-... May 30 2013, 14:23
Stone Free How do you add the realtime meter to foobar? May 31 2013, 15:40
Hotsoup QUOTE (Stone Free @ May 31 2013, 07:40) H... May 31 2013, 17:52
foomark QUOTE (Hotsoup @ May 31 2013, 18:52) QUOT... May 31 2013, 18:49
Hotsoup QUOTE (foomark @ May 31 2013, 10:49) it... May 31 2013, 19:43
foomark QUOTE (Hotsoup @ May 31 2013, 20:43) QUOT... Jun 1 2013, 09:00
db1989 Just as with any other plugin for foobar2000 provi... May 31 2013, 15:56
hlloyge Well, for me the DSP shows peaks one second in adv... Jun 4 2013, 14:21
Robertina QUOTE (hlloyge @ Jun 4 2013, 02:21) for m... Jun 4 2013, 19:53
foomark QUOTE (Robertina @ Jun 4 2013, 20:53) QUO... Jun 6 2013, 19:50
Robertina QUOTE (foomark @ Jun 6 2013, 07:50) are t... Jun 6 2013, 20:34
foomark QUOTE (Robertina @ Jun 6 2013, 21:34) QUO... Jun 7 2013, 20:59
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