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Quick questions about gaps with LAME
Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 11:00
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I have just ripped the double album "Is There Anybody Out There?: The Wall Live" by Pink Floyd to 320kbs CBR 3.98.1, and there is cutoffs where it should be gapless. I'm playing the files in the Zune software if that matters at all. What I really need to know is do you have to detect gaps (F4) before you rip to MP3 like you have to do with FLAC? Can't I just skip that and click the MP3 button? because I detected gaps on these two albums and got this result. You guys think it could just be the player not handling the gaps right? Let me know, and thanks.
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post May 20 2009, 11:32
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Could be the Zune software.

I've also never had to click detect gaps on any live albums I've ripped to either to FLAC or MP3.

Incidentally what are you using to rip CDs?
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Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 11:39
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QUOTE (probedb @ May 20 2009, 06:32) *
Could be the Zune software.

I've also never had to click detect gaps on any live albums I've ripped to either to FLAC or MP3.

Incidentally what are you using to rip CDs?


The New EAC. I just downloaded Songbird and its gapless! so I guess its just the Zune software. But can someone confirm that I don't have to detect gaps for MP3 rips? I'm not ripping to FLAC and never will, just MP3.

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post May 20 2009, 11:43
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It's the software.
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post May 20 2009, 12:47
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QUOTE (Digital Felon @ May 20 2009, 11:39) *
The New EAC. I just downloaded Songbird and its gapless! so I guess its just the Zune software. But can someone confirm that I don't have to detect gaps for MP3 rips? I'm not ripping to FLAC and never will, just MP3.


I thought that might be the case smile.gif

You could just convince yourself by doing a test with the detect gaps. I've never had to use it.
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post May 20 2009, 18:19
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You do not have to detect gaps in EAC to have gapless audio on playback. In fact, if you detect gaps then it's possible that you're not going to get what you want, especially if you don't know what you're doing.

The other thing to make sure is that you don't have EAC configured to use a compression offset. This includes having the function enabled with 0 entered as the value. Make sure the setting is disabled so that the value is grayed-out.
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Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 19:52
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QUOTE (greynol @ May 20 2009, 13:19) *
You do not have to detect gaps in EAC to have gapless audio on playback. In fact, if you detect gaps then it's possible that you're not going to get what you want, especially if you don't know what you're doing.

The other thing to make sure is that you don't have EAC configured to use a compression offset. This includes having the function enabled with 0 entered as the value. Make sure the setting is disabled so that the value is grayed-out.


Thanks you guys for all your responses. I have been using EAC for a few months now and just needed a little reassurance that I was doing it right, since all the guides I can find show you how to do a perfect FLAC rip lol. Take care guys.
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post May 20 2009, 19:59
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Just to clarify about EAC and gaps, make sure you have the program configured to either append them to the previous track or prepend them to the current track (EAC calls this append to the next track). The former is the default method which produces results consistent with ripping programs that do not detect gaps. If you want to preserve the audio as it exists on the CD being ripped, do not tell EAC to leave the gaps out.
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Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 20:26
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I have it set to "Append Gaps To Previous Track"
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post May 20 2009, 20:33
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Then so long as you don't have EAC configured to use a compression offset or delete leading and trailing silent blocks (which I didn't mention earlier), there should be no issue with the program ripping tracks that can be played back-to-back as they would in a standard CD player.

EDIT: Sorry for beating this to death.

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Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 20:36
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the compression offset is grayed out and set at 0, so that's fine how do I check the second part of what you just said?
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post May 20 2009, 20:38
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EAC Options (F9) -> Extraction tab, fourth item. It's disabled by default.
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Digital Felon
post May 20 2009, 20:39
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Gotcha its disabled. cool.gif
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