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What bitrate do you use?, MP3,AAC,Vorbis,MPC. |
May 25 2009, 21:05
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
It will be interesting and maybe usefull to see what bitrates people use mostly for different generation codecs like MP3, AAC, Vorbis etc.
I understand I post this poll in wrong subforum as I haven't rights to create poll in Poll section. Please, don't remove this interesing poll. This post has been edited by IgorC: May 25 2009, 21:07 |
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Aug 18 2009, 15:37
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Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 2-January 08 Member No.: 50051 |
it's amazing how a thread could start off asking what each user's preferred format/bitrate is and somehow manage to turn into a heated debate between those loyal to a dated format and those who prefer to use a newer, more efficient one... and yes, I am referring to MP3 and AAC, in that order.
but since the debate came up, my $0.02- if I'm going to take the time to convert my entire music library to a portable, lossy format, the first thing on my mind is which format will allow me the highest quality vs. filesize... and considering I'm in the Apple camp and use a device with full capability of playing back both MP3 and AAC (i.e. an iPod), it doesn't seem all that advantageous to use MP3 when in my experience the quality gains of using AAC at a portable filesize/quality far outweigh any compatibility-based advantages to MP3. don't get me wrong, I'm all for listening to arguments toward either side, but I have to say I'm a little annoyed that I opened this thread wanting to read about people's preferred formats/bitrates and instead had to trudge through a slew of arguments about them just to read a few posts actually related to the original topic. meanwhile, back to the topic at hand... I've been using QuickTime AAC (True VBR) for just under a year now, and while I've gone back and forth between -q 95 and -q 120, I've eventually settled on -q120 since I was able to ABX roughly 5% of the files encoded @ -q 95, whereas everything @ -q 120 is completely transparent to my ears. plus it's still moderately portable with an average bitrate of ~163kbps (my library, at least), so that's a perfect quality/filesize point for me. -------------------- Archive- FLAC (-v 8)
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Aug 18 2009, 22:50
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it's amazing how a thread could start off asking what each user's preferred format/bitrate is and somehow manage to turn into a heated debate between those loyal to a dated format and those who prefer to use a newer, more efficient one... and yes, I am referring to MP3 and AAC, in that order. It was never a debate regarding mp3 vs. AAC. This thread turned sour whenever Daemon7 started to spread false information (and bad logic) regarding mpeg-4 AAC audio. My replies were not to say that mp3 sucks as a modern format, it was just to disprove Daemon7's statements. Funny that after all of that, he decided to pick out my open-source WMA statement instead of actually examining my statements regarding AAC adoption and AAC hardware that is out there. They also managed to completely ignore my iTunes Store sales numbers which are a lot newer than the 3 year old ones (which they never linked to). Oh well, I guess that is why they haven't really come back. This happens a lot at hydrogenaudio where someone will ask a simple question and another person will stir things up. The end result will be a few pages of debate going back and forth between both sides (or, in this case, one person and a slew of others). |
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IgorC What bitrate do you use? May 25 2009, 21:05
Brent I use FLAC mostly, but in order to get stuff playi... May 25 2009, 21:25
KlAudio QUOTE (Brent @ May 25 2009, 22:25) I use ... May 26 2009, 09:57
GeSomeone It is maybe confusing to put MPC with AAC and Vorb... May 25 2009, 22:31
ManekiNeko QUOTE (GeSomeone @ May 25 2009, 22:31) It... May 26 2009, 01:21
Alexxander The first question can be answered easily but not ... May 26 2009, 09:45
memomai MPC, Vorbis and AAc should be voted seperately.
... May 26 2009, 10:52
LANjackal I'm surprised this thread hasn't been hose... May 26 2009, 21:27
gorgekko Voted MP3 and V0. With my tin can ears I could pro... May 27 2009, 01:11
tuxman "MP3" vs "modern codecs like MPC... May 27 2009, 03:58
The Seeker LAME V5. May 27 2009, 16:48
Mark7 I only use mp3 for my portable with settings -V5 f... May 28 2009, 08:40
rudefyet I tend to want all my music to be the same bitrate... May 28 2009, 09:40
hazumi-san I used aac for my nokia and the setting I use is v... May 28 2009, 10:50
Kitsuned Lame mp3 -V3 (siggy could have told you that )
A... May 28 2009, 12:11
acedriver Lame V0 May 29 2009, 04:32
Centauri I rip to AAC @ 320 VBR via Max. It yields some pre... Jun 9 2009, 17:23
C.R.Helmrich MP3 -Vx or 320 kbps? That's all the options I ... Jun 9 2009, 22:46
PaJaRo QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jun 9 2009, 23:46) ... Jun 9 2009, 23:05
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (PaJaRo @ Jun 10 2009, 00:05) Why d... Jun 10 2009, 08:58
PaJaRo QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jun 10 2009, 09:58)... Jun 10 2009, 15:46
Rio After a very long exhaustive search for my sweet s... Jun 10 2009, 02:27
The_Cisco_Kid My current settings are Wavpack Hybrid with the 16... Jun 10 2009, 05:36
kornchild2002 There are some cases where people come across hard... Jun 10 2009, 15:59
kinnerful the second poll result looks like a bell curve to ... Jul 11 2009, 18:24
uart QUOTE (kinnerful @ Jul 11 2009, 10:24) th... Jul 11 2009, 18:49
Daemon7 V2
I don't use newer codecs.
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According ... Jul 14 2009, 19:29
kornchild2002 QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 14 2009, 12:29) As f... Jul 14 2009, 23:52
Daemon7 QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Jul 14 2009, 18:52... Jul 15 2009, 22:49
rpp3po QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 15 2009, 23:49) MP3 ... Jul 15 2009, 23:43

Daemon7 QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 15 2009, 18:43) QUOTE... Jul 16 2009, 00:47
kornchild2002 Both greynol and rpp3po pointed out some very good... Jul 16 2009, 00:42
Daemon7 QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Jul 15 2009, 19:42... Jul 16 2009, 00:54
kornchild2002 QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 15 2009, 17:54) No, ... Jul 16 2009, 17:07
Daemon7 QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Jul 16 2009, 12:07... Jul 16 2009, 17:31
greynol I agree. "Dubious" is a poor word choic... Jul 15 2009, 00:31
audioaficionado EAC 0.99a5 -> Wavpack 4.50 lossless for home pl... Jul 15 2009, 01:43
antman Why are you guys even going at it with this guy? ... Jul 16 2009, 01:00
/mnt Hardware support for AAC is growing mainly because... Jul 16 2009, 01:24
Daemon7 QUOTE (/mnt @ Jul 15 2009, 20:24) Hardwar... Jul 16 2009, 02:53
/mnt QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 16 2009, 02:53) You ... Jul 16 2009, 03:19
rpp3po QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 16 2009, 03:53) Fran... Jul 16 2009, 03:31
Daemon7 QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 15 2009, 22:31) And y... Jul 16 2009, 05:30
rpp3po QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 16 2009, 06:30) No, ... Jul 16 2009, 11:56
cpchan QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 16 2009, 06:56) Ogg V... Jul 16 2009, 13:55
Daemon7 QUOTE (cpchan @ Jul 16 2009, 08:55) QUOTE... Jul 16 2009, 15:05
greynol QUOTE (Daemon7 @ Jul 15 2009, 16:47) ... Jul 16 2009, 01:30
ozmosis82 FLAC for archives, iTunes True VBR @ q100... yield... Jul 16 2009, 05:41
Larson Flac for archiving and Nero true VBR AAC q 0.95 fo... Jul 16 2009, 11:09
Examiner - Flac for archiving
- Otherwise Lame V0 or Nero... Aug 21 2009, 19:05
bug80 - FLAC for archiving.
- MP3 V4 for my portable pla... Oct 11 2009, 10:01
extrabigmehdi This question is a bit hard to answer, because cu... Oct 11 2009, 14:35
GeneV - For archiving I use Flac -8 (could be 5, too; bu... Oct 12 2009, 00:12
Acid Pants FLAC for archive here too.
For modern codecs I ch... Oct 19 2009, 21:50
randal1013 wavpack for archive/PC library.
nero aac ~125kbps... Oct 25 2009, 17:54
A_Day_Without_Me I rip to flac and listen to my flac's on the c... Oct 25 2009, 19:25
davidos 320 kpbs CBR mps. Cos I'm insane. :-)
All l... Oct 30 2009, 08:46
davidos QUOTE (davidos @ Oct 30 2009, 20:46) 320 ... Oct 30 2009, 11:36
gameplaya15143 FLAC for new CD Rips since I don't have the sp... Nov 1 2009, 04:38
Cokemonkey11 QUOTE (rudefyet @ May 28 2009, 01:40) I t... Nov 1 2009, 07:32
NeoRenegade V2 for most material, V6 for some for which qualit... Nov 1 2009, 08:35
Hatredcopter I mostly use V0 or 320
and FLAC on modern codecs Nov 10 2009, 14:21
Meeko I put down Lame -V3 for my portable mp3 player. A... Dec 24 2009, 17:04
Gornot I have never used MP3 in my life. From the very st... Dec 26 2009, 10:52
Steve Forte Rio FLAC -8 / TAK -p4m on PC
LAME 3.98.2 -V2 / NERO A... Dec 26 2009, 12:19
Yuna FLAC -5, some in -8 for archiving purpose (Ripped ... Jun 6 2010, 00:10
shadowking Archiving / Transcoding: Wavpack lossy @ 415 k -fx... Jun 6 2010, 02:27
plonk420 LAME V1 forced stereo (unless i think the music is... Jun 6 2010, 12:04
Irakli Nowadays, I use AAC with VBR ~256 kbps (on average... Jun 6 2010, 12:58
origami Mostly I use Apple Lossless,but occasionally I enc... Aug 2 2010, 09:58
Steve Forte Rio I think that ~200 kbps is best choice for psychoac... Aug 2 2010, 11:23
jimmanningjr My first post !!!
Well... I use F... Aug 11 2010, 09:02
sramov oggenc -q 4,5 --advanced-encode-option impulse_noi... Sep 15 2010, 10:45
MI3 i use V0 mp3 or v2 sometimes , because i think tha... Sep 15 2010, 11:22
Mark7 Nowadays i use FLAC -8. Extracting takes more time... Sep 15 2010, 11:59
list loosy, using nero aac under 128kbit/s or aoTuV abo... Sep 15 2010, 16:59
david.lisb MP3 V0 & Flac -8 Sep 15 2010, 17:13
serkan I use mainly MP3 because of it's compatibility... Jan 29 2011, 13:48
Northpack QUOTE (serkan @ Jan 29 2011, 13:48) Vorbi... Jan 29 2011, 14:50
The Seeker Nowadays, I'm using Ogg Vorbis, q5.0. Sounds f... Jan 29 2011, 23:03
Maggi FlaCuda -11 for archiving
LAME VBR V0 for daily us... Feb 8 2011, 17:09
misterelie I must seem like the oddball here. For my LP tran... Feb 12 2011, 22:50
Schmoogsley ogg vorbis LancerMod (SSE3) -q10 VBR Feb 13 2011, 00:06
Sorrow I mostly use FLAC Feb 16 2011, 16:40![]() ![]() |
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