(Not a) good explanation of jitter in TAS |
(Not a) good explanation of jitter in TAS |
 Jul 4 2009, 22:15
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robert harley who has consummate ability to elucidate just about any description of a sound compares jitter to image stabilizing binoculars. its in the newest issue-#194 with the meridian speaker on the front, august.
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hifitommy (Not a) good explanation of jitter in TAS Jul 4 2009, 22:15
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I wasn't arguing with you--I've b... Jul 12 2009, 04:18 andy o QUOTE (MichaelW @ Jul 11 2009, 20:18) @an... Jul 12 2009, 15:47 uart QUOTE (from linked article)I've heard this mos... Jul 12 2009, 07:31 greynol Why do you ask?
Can you demonstrate through a dou... Jul 20 2009, 17:36 EliasGwinn QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 20 2009, 11:36) Why ... Jul 20 2009, 17:43 greynol QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 09:43) W... Jul 20 2009, 18:09 krabapple QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 12:43) W... Jul 20 2009, 18:53 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 12:43) T... Jul 20 2009, 23:31 Axon QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 20 2009, 17... Jul 21 2009, 02:26 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Axon @ Jul 20 2009, 21:26) QUOTE (... Jul 21 2009, 12:57 rpp3po QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 21 2009, 13... Jul 21 2009, 13:58 EliasGwinn QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 21 2009, 07:58) Apart... Jul 21 2009, 16:15 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 21 2009, 11:15) Q... Jul 22 2009, 13:07 rpp3po QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 22 2009, 14... Jul 22 2009, 16:09 pdq QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 22 2009, 11:09) You a... Jul 22 2009, 17:22 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 22 2009, 12:22) Jitter c... Jul 22 2009, 20:03 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 22 2009, 11:09) QUOTE... Jul 22 2009, 17:38 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 21 2009, 08:58) QUOTE... Jul 22 2009, 13:02 pdq I don't understand why it would be so difficul... Jul 20 2009, 18:03 Axon QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 20 2009, 12:03) I don... Jul 20 2009, 18:35 rpp3po QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 20 2009, 19:03) I don... Jul 20 2009, 19:17 EliasGwinn QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 20 2009, 13:17) Good ... Jul 20 2009, 19:21 rpp3po QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 20:21) M... Jul 20 2009, 19:32 EliasGwinn QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 20 2009, 13:32) I own... Jul 20 2009, 19:40 Mike Giacomelli QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 20 2009, 14:17) QUOTE... Jul 20 2009, 20:37 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Mike Giacomelli @ Jul 20 2009, 15... Jul 20 2009, 23:34 rpp3po Very interesting comments.
The problem I generall... Jul 21 2009, 00:07 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 20 2009, 19:07) Very ... Jul 21 2009, 01:42 greynol Furthermore, tests for the audibility of jitter sh... Jul 20 2009, 18:21 EliasGwinn QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 20 2009, 12:21) Furt... Jul 20 2009, 18:57 Soap QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 13:57) Q... Jul 20 2009, 19:48 EliasGwinn QUOTE (Soap @ Jul 20 2009, 13:48) Is this... Jul 20 2009, 20:43 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 15:43) D... Jul 21 2009, 13:20 greynol Fine, then feel free to provide samples of audible... Jul 20 2009, 19:01 EliasGwinn QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 20 2009, 13:01) Fine... Jul 20 2009, 19:09 Axon Would it be too much to ask for a thread split? Th... Jul 21 2009, 02:24 greynol QUOTE (Axon @ Jul 20 2009, 18:24) Would i... Jul 21 2009, 02:50 Axon QUOTE (EliasGwinn @ Jul 20 2009, 13:21) A... Jul 21 2009, 02:46 Mike Giacomelli Great post! Thanks for the overview. Jul 22 2009, 15:17 pdq Arnold - when you say that "Re-clocking and b... Jul 22 2009, 15:35 Mike Giacomelli How does one use a PLL to correct for a noisy cloc... Jul 22 2009, 20:37 Axon All PLLs utilize a loop filter to some degree, to ... Jul 22 2009, 20:57 pdq Exactly. Long-term, the filtered clock's frequ... Jul 22 2009, 21:03 Mike Giacomelli Ah that makes perfect sense. Thanks. Jul 22 2009, 21:30 rpp3po Thank's all for the feedback! I found this... Jul 22 2009, 22:45 Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (rpp3po @ Jul 22 2009, 17:45) Thank... Jul 23 2009, 11:55 rpp3po QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 23 2009, 12... Jul 23 2009, 12:49 Arnold B. Krueger The data sheet makes it clear that the chip can be... Jul 23 2009, 14:54  |
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