IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Why does there seem to be a lack of interest in Musepack?
nycjv321
post Aug 19 2009, 01:08
Post #1





Group: Members
Posts: 69
Joined: 15-July 09
Member No.: 71500



Musepack is still as good as mp3 if not better and on par with modern codecs and vorbis and aac so why does no one talk about it? I was murking around the forum wiki and found out musepack was opensource which is a big plus for me... and older abx tests have it on par with aotuv or lame so why no talk? is it becuase of slow development? I think this is unfair if the codec is already so good no more tuning is needed..... any reason why people don't use mpc anymore other then compatibility? (converting from lossless to another format isn't too trivial... lol....)
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
2Bdecided
post Aug 19 2009, 13:28
Post #2


ReplayGain developer


Group: Developer
Posts: 4945
Joined: 5-November 01
From: Yorkshire, UK
Member No.: 409



I think the world continued to be dominated by the iPod, while the things that weren't iPods started to play Vorbis and/or FLAC as well as mp3 (and usually WMA). MPC support didn't spread as fast.

If you want a lossy collection that is sure to outlive your current choice of DAP, mp3 has always been the only choice.

If you want a high quality collection on your PC, you've got more choice than ever, but rapidly diminishing disc prices make it increasingly silly not to use lossless.


I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but CDs are heading towards obsolescence. wink.gif Now is a great time to make a lossless backup of your valuable collection. In five or ten years time, I don't think the tools are going to be so easily available - for instance, having an optical drive that can rip CDs quickly and securely won't be a huge selling point when most normal people have thrown their CDs in the bin! The time to rip to lossless is now (if you haven't already). 1.5TB HDD = 86 = about 3 pence per CD lossless.


As for what lossy to use, I'm with Soap:- it doesn't matter. Pick a fast encoder, leave some quality headroom, and do it on the fly.

Cheers,
David.
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Wyld Stallyn
post Mar 29 2013, 16:20
Post #3





Group: Members
Posts: 13
Joined: 29-March 13
From: Fuldatal
Member No.: 107444



QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 13:28) *
but rapidly diminishing disc prices make it increasingly silly not to use lossless.

What is at all silly about striving for efficiency? If I want to cut on wasted disk space and file size -which are both very reasonable choices-, it is not at all silly if I then go out and convert my big fat music files to ones that are only half as big with no level of signal deterioration that is in the slightest practice-relevant. In fact I should argue that it is very silly indeed to be unwilling to use so called lossy formats when those do not actually present a loss in audio quality.

And if you are among the economical bottom it is generally preferable to save those 50 for that extra HDD, even when you live in a country where hitting bottom doesn't mean living on foodstamps in a cockroach-infested poorly isolated apartment with mould croaching up everywhere. THey could just go into that book that helps you acquire the last inch of professional skill that puts you atop that one main competitor, potentially elevating you into a real, cozy middle-class life. Or maybe you're saving up for a stock investment at the right time. As we say very poetically here in Germany: "Small livestock makes droppings too."

Eh, it just doesn't sound good in English.

This post has been edited by Wyld Stallyn: Mar 29 2013, 16:21
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- nycjv321   Why does there seem to be a lack of interest in Musepack?   Aug 19 2009, 01:08
- - Soap   I believe the answer is because MPC is on par with...   Aug 19 2009, 01:16
- - nycjv321   wow.... oh ok that sucks though I am willing to sa...   Aug 19 2009, 01:27
- - /mnt   I agree with Soap about the public being more inte...   Aug 19 2009, 01:29
- - rpp3po   The point is hardware support.   Aug 19 2009, 01:44
- - /mnt   If open source is big plus to you, i would recomme...   Aug 19 2009, 01:51
- - viktor   the future (present) of music on pc is lossless. o...   Aug 19 2009, 02:03
|- - prankstare   QUOTE the future (present) of music on pc is lossl...   Oct 13 2009, 19:01
|- - viktor   QUOTE (prankstare @ Oct 13 2009, 20:01) Q...   Oct 13 2009, 19:38
- - Antonski   Well, it's a matter of choice, you know. For m...   Aug 19 2009, 02:17
- - twostar   Years ago when HD space was an issue, high quality...   Aug 19 2009, 02:38
- - shadowking   I disagree somewhat. The core values of HA sure ha...   Aug 19 2009, 03:31
|- - patmcg   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 18 2009, 16:31) I...   Aug 19 2009, 07:20
- - shadowking   128k is a reduction in standards. I am not telling...   Aug 19 2009, 07:54
|- - Soap   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 02:54) I...   Aug 19 2009, 12:39
||- - bawjaws   QUOTE (Soap @ Aug 19 2009, 03:39) I do de...   Aug 20 2009, 16:59
||- - halb27   QUOTE (bawjaws @ Aug 20 2009, 17:59) How ...   Aug 20 2009, 17:59
|- - Alexxander   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 08:54) ....   Aug 19 2009, 12:50
|- - viktor   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 07:54) I...   Aug 21 2009, 15:01
- - nycjv321   I think (or at least would hope) people want hq on...   Aug 19 2009, 12:09
- - Alexxander   QUOTE (viktor @ Aug 19 2009, 03:03) the f...   Aug 19 2009, 12:44
|- - viktor   QUOTE (Alexxander @ Aug 19 2009, 12:44) Q...   Aug 21 2009, 15:21
- - Grinderman   I returned relatively recently to HA after quite a...   Aug 19 2009, 13:11
- - 2Bdecided   I think the world continued to be dominated by the...   Aug 19 2009, 13:28
|- - kornchild2002   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 06:28) I ...   Aug 19 2009, 16:55
|- - David Nordin   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 14:28) 1....   Aug 20 2009, 16:33
||- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (David Nordin @ Aug 20 2009, 16:33)...   Aug 20 2009, 16:46
|- - DonP   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 07:28) I ...   May 19 2010, 14:07
|- - Wyld Stallyn   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 13:28) bu...   Mar 29 2013, 16:20
|- - 2Bdecided   I bet when you dragged this thread up from the dep...   Mar 29 2013, 16:34
|- - Wyld Stallyn   I didn't actually look at the timestamp. Now t...   Mar 29 2013, 16:37
- - GeSomeone   I have used Musepack for quite some time and of co...   Aug 19 2009, 14:49
- - Kitsuned   For the lower bitrates (below 128kbps) musepack co...   Aug 19 2009, 20:24
- - Destroid   I think Musepack is a perfectly usable format for ...   Aug 20 2009, 00:25
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Destroid @ Aug 20 2009, 00:25) I t...   Aug 20 2009, 09:12
- - kwanbis   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:08) Mus...   Aug 20 2009, 05:18
|- - nycjv321   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 20 2009, 00:18) QUOT...   Aug 21 2009, 01:41
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 21 2009, 01:41) I a...   Aug 21 2009, 09:25
||- - Soap   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 21 2009, 04:25) QU...   Aug 21 2009, 14:45
|- - twostar   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:41) dud...   Aug 21 2009, 13:16
|- - nycjv321   QUOTE (twostar @ Aug 21 2009, 08:16) QUOT...   Aug 21 2009, 14:35
|- - AshenTech   QUOTE (twostar @ Aug 21 2009, 06:16) QUOT...   Sep 10 2009, 16:28
|- - viktor   QUOTE (AshenTech @ Sep 10 2009, 16:28) ac...   Sep 10 2009, 18:44
- - halb27   I think those who have a mpc music library and no ...   Aug 20 2009, 12:06
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (halb27 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:06) I thi...   Aug 20 2009, 13:00
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 20 2009, 14:00) Pe...   Aug 20 2009, 15:56
|- - halb27   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 20 2009, 14:00) Th...   Aug 20 2009, 16:11
- - Antonski   QUOTE (Soap @ Aug 19 2009, 03:16) The pub...   Aug 20 2009, 15:52
- - Brother John   2Bdecided has a valid point here. CDs don’t ...   Aug 20 2009, 16:15
- - vpa   AFAIK: Musepack is based on MP2, and therefore onl...   Aug 20 2009, 17:50
- - Aquamarine   Yeah, me too. I will not sacrifice my mp3 quality ...   Aug 20 2009, 18:33
- - nycjv321   umm why was the original title of this topic chang...   Aug 21 2009, 02:44
- - String Theory   Musepack didn't interest me until yesterday. A...   May 19 2010, 12:24
|- - dv1989   QUOTE (String Theory @ May 19 2010, 12:24...   May 19 2010, 13:05
|- - String Theory   QUOTE (dv1989 @ May 19 2010, 14:05) QUOTE...   May 19 2010, 13:08
- - dv1989   By "awesome", I presume you mean transpa...   May 19 2010, 13:16


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 20th April 2014 - 17:44