lossyWAV 1.2.0 released, Added noise WAV bitdepth reduction method |
lossyWAV 1.2.0 released, Added noise WAV bitdepth reduction method |
Dec 16 2009, 23:58
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![]() lossyWAV Developer Group: Developer Posts: 1722 Joined: 11-April 07 From: Wherever here is Member No.: 42400 |
lossyWAV 1.2.0 is released.
lossyWAV is a near lossless audio processor which dynamically reduces the bitdepth of the signal on a block-by-block basis. Bitdepth reduction adds white noise to the processed output. Changes from 1.1.0c:
This post has been edited by Nick.C: Dec 2 2010, 21:48 -------------------- lossyWAV -q X | FLAC -8 ~= 308kbps
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Dec 21 2009, 14:11
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Group: Members Posts: 2261 Joined: 9-October 05 From: Dormagen, Germany Member No.: 25015 |
Thank you, shadowking, for ABXing.
Not very good news, but valuable experience of lossyWAV behavior. Do you mind publishing the sample and tell us the bad spot of the sample, shadowking? I'd like to learn about transcoding quality whether it depends on -V. Can you ABX the mp3 encoding of say -P --altpreset when you choose a better mp3 quality like -V2? This post has been edited by halb27: Dec 21 2009, 14:14 -------------------- lame3100i -V0.5+ --adbr_short 480
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Dec 26 2009, 01:30
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1495 Joined: 31-January 04 Member No.: 11664 |
Thank you, shadowking, for ABXing. Not very good news, but valuable experience of lossyWAV behavior. Do you mind publishing the sample and tell us the bad spot of the sample, shadowking? I'd like to learn about transcoding quality whether it depends on -V. Can you ABX the mp3 encoding of say -P --altpreset when you choose a better mp3 quality like -V2? Better news: I did more testing yesterday and as per your suggestion, I found out that the main problem was V5 itself - the samples i tested were already ruined by mp3 artifacts. LW didn't add any artifact that wasn't already there though the amplitude of it can change slightly. This is normal. I tested V4 this time with plain Q1.5, 2.5, 3.5 without NS and things were way better. Q2.5 and over were fine. Q1.5 was abxable in one segment (lame V4 in itself wasn't fully transparent) but q1.5 added a bit of intensity to it. On subsequent trials in was somewhat harder to abx that part. Overall 1.5 was also very good - i test it as a 'low anchor'. Also tested Nero AAC q0.5 with lw Q2.5 and everything seemed transparent. I'll do more tests soon and report them here. |
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Dec 28 2009, 22:06
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Group: Members Posts: 2261 Joined: 9-October 05 From: Dormagen, Germany Member No.: 25015 |
Better news: ... Q2.5 and over were fine. ... Thank you, shadowking. Though the --portable quality level does not necessarily have the property that transcoding to mp3 is fine it would have been a little bit disappointing. -------------------- lame3100i -V0.5+ --adbr_short 480
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Jan 4 2010, 19:12
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![]() ReplayGain developer Group: Developer Posts: 4589 Joined: 5-November 01 From: Yorkshire, UK Member No.: 409 |
Better news: ... Q2.5 and over were fine. ... Thank you, shadowking. Though the --portable quality level does not necessarily have the property that transcoding to mp3 is fine it would have been a little bit disappointing. (Pre-processing with my original implementation changed the already audible artefacts on some samples when encoded to mp3 from much higher "lossyWAV" bitrates than you're seeing now.) Cheers, David. |
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Nick.C lossyWAV 1.2.0 released Dec 16 2009, 23:58
Nick.C CODElossyWAV 1.2.0, Copyright © 2007,2008,2009 Nic... Dec 17 2009, 00:13
halb27 Thank you very much for the new release, Nick. Dec 17 2009, 12:46
shadowking Thank you guys.
BTW: i encoded a fiona apple cd ... Dec 17 2009, 13:53
TBeck Great work! Thank you.
QUOTE (shadowking ... Dec 17 2009, 14:01
halb27 QUOTE (TBeck @ Dec 17 2009, 14:01) Great ... Dec 17 2009, 21:10
Nick.C The quality scale for --altpreset basically extend... Dec 17 2009, 14:47
skamp From my point of view as a user, lossyWAV is one o... Dec 18 2009, 18:27
2Bdecided QUOTE (skamp @ Dec 18 2009, 17:27) one of... Dec 19 2009, 00:52
TBeck "Honour to whom honour is due"
(I am pr... Dec 20 2009, 00:42
zorzescu As a title paraphrase of the well known song of Bu... Dec 20 2009, 11:14
Steve Forte Rio For me "--zero --altpreset" sounds much ... Dec 20 2009, 14:40
Nick.C --zero --altpreset equates to approximately -q 1.6... Dec 20 2009, 16:51
shadowking I have some trouble with mp3 transcoding. Last mon... Dec 21 2009, 11:56
GeSomeone QUOTE (shadowking @ Dec 21 2009, 12:56) A... Dec 21 2009, 13:04
Admiral Oggbar From the Wiki:
Question: Why create a processor w... Dec 27 2009, 01:30
singaiya What kind of answer do you expect to this question... Dec 27 2009, 01:41
Nick.C QUOTE (Admiral Oggbar @ Dec 27 2009, 00:3... Dec 27 2009, 19:20
hellokeith QUOTE (Nick.C @ Dec 27 2009, 13:20) An ea... Dec 28 2009, 01:30
2E7AH This kind of command parameters use, can be frustr... Jan 16 2010, 04:45
Nick.C Try:
Encoder: C:\windows\system32... Jan 16 2010, 09:40
2E7AH thanks for your help and program now it works gre... Jan 16 2010, 09:53
Steve Forte Rio QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 16 2010, 06:53) now it... Jan 16 2010, 12:28
gottkaiser @Steve Forte Rio
Thanks for the configuration and ... Jan 16 2010, 14:55
2E7AH seems I posted wrong code
looking to it now, I... Jan 17 2010, 06:39
Steve Forte Rio QUOTE (gottkaiser @ Jan 16 2010, 11:55) T... Jan 16 2010, 15:57
2E7AH OK, nevermind the script, I'll post later as b... Jan 17 2010, 08:22
2E7AH if someone can delete above two post please do
H... Jan 17 2010, 10:45
Nick.C Using the command line:CODElossywav ..\sample... Jan 17 2010, 12:24
2E7AH So, what to do with FLAC?
If lossy.flac and lwcdf... Jan 17 2010, 12:51
Nick.C QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 17 2010, 11:51) So, wh... Jan 17 2010, 13:04
2E7AH well, I used your batch script which includes that... Jan 17 2010, 13:09
Agent69 I finally got around to trying LossyWAV this weeke... Jan 17 2010, 16:21
lvqcl QUOTE (Agent69 @ Jan 17 2010, 18:21) By t... Jan 18 2010, 09:59
2E7AH I got PMed about batch scripts, so I'm posting... Jan 18 2010, 02:53
Steve Forte Rio QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 17 2010, 23:53) I got ... Jan 18 2010, 14:17
gottkaiser QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 18 2010, 02:53) I got ... Jan 18 2010, 14:31
Nick.C lossyWAV uses data type double for FFT calculation... Jan 18 2010, 13:28
lvqcl QUOTE (Nick.C @ Jan 18 2010, 15:28) lossy... Jan 19 2010, 16:48
Nick.C .... and from me too. The --correction / --merge p... Jan 18 2010, 22:53
Bollerkopp QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 18 2010, 02:53) I got ... Jan 19 2010, 05:07
2E7AH thanks to all for their feedback on the script, I ... Jan 19 2010, 06:26
Bollerkopp Thanks for your answer.
But no, I used it on the ... Jan 19 2010, 07:34
2E7AH you should run converter only on .lossy.flac files... Jan 19 2010, 07:50
2E7AH also I just now noticed that I was merging in the ... Jan 19 2010, 09:28
Bollerkopp Yes, I run it on the ".lossy.flac."-file... Jan 19 2010, 15:39
Nick.C Point taken. I have modified the source (I have ne... Jan 19 2010, 22:30
Agent69 Nick,
In your opinion, which lossless codec works... Jan 20 2010, 18:01
Nick.C I carried out a test using my 10 album test set pr... Jan 20 2010, 22:13
lvqcl LossyWAV 1.2.0 --standard:
WavPack -x1: 477.4 kbp... Jan 20 2010, 22:27
Agent69 Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate your respon... Jan 21 2010, 04:11
Steve Forte Rio Does anyone can to rewrite the batch file for usin... Jan 23 2010, 11:16
2E7AH here is example:
lossyTAK.bat
CODEgoto %1
goto end... Jan 23 2010, 16:47
Steve Forte Rio QUOTE (2E7AH @ Jan 23 2010, 13:47) here i... Jan 27 2010, 22:14
shadowking I've been playing with the new lossywav and al... Jan 26 2010, 14:50
shadowking i decided to try wavpack @ 250 and 300k
-b250x4:... Jan 26 2010, 15:12
halb27 Thank you for your tests, shadowking.
Another use... Jan 26 2010, 19:02
shadowking I did a total 10 trials per track and took a littl... Jan 27 2010, 01:23
shadowking Okay. I went strait to Q2.5 --altpreset, 10 trial... Jan 27 2010, 11:25
halb27 Thank you for your test, shadowking, great work.
... Jan 27 2010, 21:15
shadowking QUOTE (halb27 @ Jan 28 2010, 07:15) Thank... Jan 28 2010, 11:48
Agent69 Very interesting Shadowking. In my testing of Loss... Jan 28 2010, 13:40
shadowking QUOTE (Agent69 @ Jan 28 2010, 23:40) Very... Jan 28 2010, 14:32
halb27 Thanks, for providing your sample, shadowking, and... Jan 28 2010, 19:06
Nick.C Shadowking,
Thanks for your continued effort in A... Jan 28 2010, 20:36
halb27 I tried your sample, shadowking.
At -q 1 --altpres... Jan 29 2010, 21:44
pdq QUOTE (halb27 @ Jan 29 2010, 16:44) (I ce... Jan 29 2010, 21:57

halb27 QUOTE (pdq @ Jan 29 2010, 21:57) QUOTE (h... Jan 30 2010, 00:37
Nick.C QUOTE (halb27 @ Jan 29 2010, 20:44) Two q... Jan 29 2010, 22:11
Northpack QUOTE (Nick.C @ Jan 29 2010, 22:11) I... Feb 2 2010, 11:02
halb27 I see, you prefer -q 3.75 because it's midway ... Jan 30 2010, 00:35
shadowking Sorry i was tied up with a lot of work so i wasn... Jan 30 2010, 11:02
halb27 Just an idea about how to name the intermediate qu... Jan 30 2010, 23:29
halb27 Average bitrate for my standard test set of variou... Jan 31 2010, 09:04
johnb Could you please answer this for clarification (on... Jan 31 2010, 15:42
halb27 There's two things coming with the --altpreset... Jan 31 2010, 16:16
gottkaiser Hi,
I was "playing" around with convert... Jan 31 2010, 21:00
Nick.C Does this plug-in work with FLAC? Jan 31 2010, 21:07
gottkaiser Yes, it works codec independent.
I used it for yea... Feb 1 2010, 01:25
gottkaiser I tried converting the lossyWAV tracks to mp3 (vbr... Feb 1 2010, 15:51
Nick.C How does the visualisation deal with the unprocess... Feb 1 2010, 17:10
gottkaiser I decoded the lossyFLAC file to WAV with and witho... Feb 1 2010, 17:31
benski QUOTE (gottkaiser @ Feb 1 2010, 11:31) I ... Feb 1 2010, 18:44
Nick.C Thanks very much, Benski. Feb 1 2010, 20:55
gottkaiser great. Thanks fro me as well! Feb 2 2010, 03:17
halb27 Overkill quality demand of a minor degree can also... Feb 2 2010, 11:28
shadowking Personally, i like the old scale as its simple and... Feb 2 2010, 12:49
Northpack QUOTE (shadowking @ Feb 2 2010, 12:49) Q0... Feb 2 2010, 14:25
halb27 The 2 groups you built, shadowking, are essential ... Feb 2 2010, 15:53
GeSomeone Thanks all involved for the listening tests.
My... Feb 2 2010, 18:52
halb27 QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Feb 2 2010, 18:52) QUO... Feb 2 2010, 23:02
shadowking A slight revision taking into account your input;
... Feb 2 2010, 16:13
shadowking I decided to try again today .
q1.5 - 7/8
2.0 - ... Feb 14 2010, 13:16
halb27 QUOTE (shadowking @ Feb 14 2010, 13:16) .... Feb 14 2010, 15:21
shadowking Also playing around with this interesting new --al... Feb 14 2010, 14:07
2E7AH If I could edit my posts, I would add this warning... Feb 15 2010, 12:41![]() ![]() |
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