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samples where aps or ape has a problem |
Mar 24 2003, 17:01
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find it, and it's not in the FAQ (it should be - please!)
On which samples is --alt-preset extreme audibly better than --alt-preset standard. On which samples is --alt-preset insane audibly better than --alt-preset extreme. On which samples is --alt-preset insane not transparent? Cheers, David. |
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Apr 3 2003, 15:52
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![]() ReplayGain developer Group: Developer Posts: 4586 Joined: 5-November 01 From: Yorkshire, UK Member No.: 409 |
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With the many tests samples I've been trying, I am slowing coming to an even more contraversial conclusion... r3mix is often better than --aps!!! Sorry - only joking! I should have tried this one on April 1. Seriously though - I have found something which no-one here has ever said, probably because no one uses 128kbps CBR mp3: --alt-preset cbr 128 is often worse than -b 128 -h (i.e. the lame default). ap cbr 128 is probably better in the majority of cases (though I wouldn't bet my life on it), but there are many many samples where -b 128 -h is actually better than --alt-preset cbr 128. This isn't a late April fool - try the samples listed in this thread for starters. Much of the time neither command line is transparent, so to some extent it depends on which artefacts you find most annoying; but there are some cases where lame default beats the "tuned" line hands down. Just thought it was worth mentioning. I've already PMed ff123, who helped develop the command line behind --alt-preset cbr 128. Maybe the fact that it's worth trying other things (even other encoders) at 128kbps should be in the HA FAQ - and/or a subject for further lame tuning? Anyway, what really interests me is the unanswered aps/e -Z issue - can adding -Z ever decrease quality? Please tell! Cheers, David. |
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2Bdecided samples where aps or ape has a problem Mar 24 2003, 17:01
Wombat There are some,
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/foru... Mar 24 2003, 18:40
Pio2001 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 24 2003 - 07:01 PM)On ... Mar 24 2003, 22:11
KikeG For me, the trumpets.wav sample sounds much more t... Mar 24 2003, 23:12
2Bdecided Thank you all for your responses. I went hunting a... Mar 25 2003, 17:25
Pio2001 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 25 2003 - 07:25 PM)bad... Mar 25 2003, 20:50
guruboolez --alt-preset VBR are suffering with harpsichord. E... Mar 25 2003, 21:11
2Bdecided guruboolez - thank you - you're right!
W... Mar 26 2003, 11:58
2Bdecided QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Mar 25 2003 - 07:50 PM)The p... Mar 26 2003, 11:59
guruboolez · Jump is a song from Van Halen (1984 album, but n... Mar 26 2003, 12:03
2Bdecided Reading about the 3.94 alphas, I followed this sug... Mar 26 2003, 16:57
2Bdecided At the risk of being a saddo who just bumps his ow... Mar 27 2003, 11:10
KikeG QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 25 2003 - 09:11 PM)In... Mar 27 2003, 11:56
Dibrom QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 25 2003 - 09:25 AM)P.S... Mar 27 2003, 12:02
Dibrom QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 26 2003 - 08:57 AM)aps... Mar 27 2003, 12:07
2Bdecided Thank you. Mar 27 2003, 13:25
2Bdecided To settle aps -Z vs ape -Z vs api in my own mind, ... Mar 27 2003, 14:01
2Bdecided ? Mar 28 2003, 11:27
CiTay Hmm, --aps -Z files aren't really that much bi... Mar 28 2003, 12:40
2Bdecided ?
Sorry to bump again, but it's kind of impor... Mar 31 2003, 11:16
DickD I was searching for info on how -Z worked and foun... Mar 31 2003, 17:14
KikeG IIRC, JohnV said that there's no problem in us... Apr 1 2003, 10:05
2Bdecided JohnV did say exactly that, but Dibrom said ... Apr 1 2003, 10:24
JohnV It has been said many times that Gpsycho has often... Apr 3 2003, 17:57
Dibrom QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Apr 1 2003 - 02:24 AM)So m... Apr 3 2003, 18:17
DickD Just guessing (sorry!) but perhaps -Z could ma... Apr 3 2003, 20:15
2Bdecided QUOTE (JohnV @ Apr 3 2003 - 04:57 PM)It has b... Apr 4 2003, 10:53
2Bdecided QUOTE (Dibrom @ Apr 3 2003 - 05:17 PM)The poi... Apr 4 2003, 11:11
Gabriel David, would you try adding --athtype 0 to preset ... Apr 4 2003, 11:20
Wombat I use aps -Z for a long time now. I donīt encode m... Apr 4 2003, 11:27
JohnV QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Apr 4 2003 - 01:11 PM)You ... Apr 4 2003, 12:43
CiTay Okay, i changed the List of recommended LAME setti... Apr 4 2003, 15:16
2Bdecided QUOTE (Gabriel @ Apr 4 2003 - 10:20 AM)David,... Apr 4 2003, 16:25
2Bdecided JohnV - thanks for that long explanation. It would... Apr 4 2003, 16:31
ff123 2BDecided,
Thanks for that list of samples.
I... Apr 4 2003, 16:50
user --alt-preset fast standard / extreme ?
dev0:
... Apr 11 2003, 14:02
Frank Klemm QUOTE (JohnV @ Apr 4 2003 - 01:43 PM)Yes, usi... Apr 11 2003, 15:41
2Bdecided QUOTE (user @ Apr 11 2003 - 01:02 PM)--alt-pr... Apr 11 2003, 16:30![]() ![]() |
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