-V2 gives way too high bitrate!?! |
-V2 gives way too high bitrate!?! |
Mar 29 2010, 16:48
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I use dbpoweramp and I encode flac tracks to LAME 3.98r -V2. Usually this results in ~170 to ~220 kbps files (close to 192kbps CBR quality)
Well, not so for 2 As I Lay Dying albums that I have (think REALLY LOUD metal). When I encode those I get 230-270 kbps and of course the resulting files are quite big. My question is: is this a bug or completely natural? Furthermore (if it's not a bug), isn't it just better to encode in 192kbps and get a smaller file, since that's the quality I was going for anyway? Cheers |
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Mar 30 2010, 17:42
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It was not too long and is well worth reading, benski. If you don't have the time to devote to the entire post, you should have at least read what was labeled "short and concise". It would have certainly taken no more time than it took you to post what you did.
I think [JAZ]'s entire post is quite worthy of being in the wiki provided that it is technically accurate (I have no reason to think it isn't technically accurate). I might be wrong, but I think you've pretty much said the same thing that [JAZ] wrote, but more dense, which might be harder for a lay person to understand. I don't see any reason why that should preclude what you wrote from being in the article if what you wrote can be used to improve it, however. This post has been edited by greynol: Mar 30 2010, 17:51 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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masterridley -V2 gives way too high bitrate!?! Mar 29 2010, 16:48
dv1989 Natural. VBR targets quality, not bitrate. Loud me... Mar 29 2010, 16:52
dsimcha QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 29 2010, 11:52) Natur... Mar 29 2010, 16:56
[JAZ] metal (being loud and "noisy"*) kicks on... Mar 29 2010, 17:06
masterridley Damn! That's what I suspected too (compres... Mar 29 2010, 17:07
robert You could update to LAME 3.98.4, as previous 3.98 ... Mar 29 2010, 17:13
pdq QUOTE (masterridley @ Mar 29 2010, 11:48)... Mar 29 2010, 17:14
dv1989 QUOTE (pdq)If you really want the best quality whi... Mar 29 2010, 17:24
masterridley QUOTE (JAZ)Two ways to workaround (workaround not ... Mar 29 2010, 17:26
greynol -Y does not cut content above 16k; it is not a low... Mar 29 2010, 17:43
lvqcl QUOTE Regarding -Y, doesn't it kick in with -V... Mar 29 2010, 18:06
Aleron Ives I hate to continue discussion about -Y since it se... Mar 30 2010, 04:59
greynol QUOTE (Aleron Ives @ Mar 29 2010, 20:59) ... Mar 30 2010, 05:20
Aleron Ives QUOTE (greynol @ Mar 29 2010, 20:20) QUOT... Mar 30 2010, 05:48
shadowking I suggest not to fiddle with -Y . If you want a lo... Mar 30 2010, 11:10
Aleron Ives QUOTE (shadowking @ Mar 30 2010, 02:10) I... Mar 30 2010, 23:38
[JAZ] I am preparing to put this on the wiki (but my use... Mar 30 2010, 12:03
benski very short version: -Y switch makes LAME not encod... Mar 30 2010, 17:35
benski QUOTE (greynol @ Mar 30 2010, 11:42) It w... Mar 30 2010, 17:44
greynol I hope you caught my edits above since I think you... Mar 30 2010, 17:55
[JAZ] I would like an answer from robert, or someone tha... Mar 31 2010, 10:25
Aleron Ives QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Mar 31 2010, 02:25... Mar 31 2010, 10:53
robert QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Mar 31 2010, 11:25... Mar 31 2010, 12:33
shadowking -Y is still 'experimental'. It was never ... Mar 31 2010, 11:52
Aleron Ives I would like to thank robert for explaining the co... Mar 31 2010, 23:58
[JAZ] Thanks robert. I've used your explanations as ... Mar 31 2010, 13:16
Ajax The original poster "masterridley" (a ne... Mar 31 2010, 14:16
robert global gain: is the global quantization step size ... Mar 31 2010, 14:25
pdq @[JAZ]
You might also point out that for older fo... Mar 31 2010, 14:47
shadowking We should not be recommending or documenting -Y un... Mar 31 2010, 14:53
dv1989 QUOTE (Knowledgebase)LAME Y SWITH
Surely I needn... Mar 31 2010, 15:04
[JAZ] DOH!
I saw something strange in that, but i d... Mar 31 2010, 20:45
dv1989 The spelling was one thing. Also, it may not matte... Mar 31 2010, 21:09
shadowking This is still going back to my point. Users don... Apr 1 2010, 10:49
Aleron Ives QUOTE (shadowking @ Apr 1 2010, 02:49) Th... Apr 1 2010, 11:18
greynol QUOTE (shadowking @ Apr 1 2010, 02:49) Us... Apr 1 2010, 18:28
[JAZ] Robert, can you comment on this line of the articl... Apr 1 2010, 11:22
robert QUOTE If global gain is zero, resolution will need... Apr 1 2010, 11:37
[JAZ] Talk about failing to read...
I didn't ful... Apr 1 2010, 13:39![]() ![]() |
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