Do Not Use the Vorbis FFMPEG enecoder if you building WebM!, Monty mentions this in his blog post, but nobody is listening! Options

[HotshotGG]

A lot of open-source enthusiasts and advocates are very excited about Google latest announcement of VP8 / Vorbis combo in a new container called WebM. The entire HTML 5 enthusiasts are so excited that they went a ahead a little to prematurely are building suboptimal builds! Michael Niedermeyer of FFMPEG projects acknowledges that the FFMPEG Vorbis encoder is buggy! Monty has a work around on his blog if you plan on building the WebM encoder under Linux. I am also providing an explanation in the wiki as to why it's generally a good idea to use the mainline libvorbis with libavcodec instead due to the fact that is has 5.1 channel coupling implemented correctly! Please spread the word as this will turn into a disaster sooner or later before it's patched. If you thought the HTML 5 wars are not bad enough now!

Monty's Blog:
http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/51160.html

This post has been edited by HotshotGG: Jun 12 2010, 18:43

[HotshotGG]

The problem is that people do not realize their are two vorbis encoders available in ffmpeg and are merely going with the first one they see, which is often the bad one. Again do google a search. This has been widely discussed many times by all parties involved. Hopefully ffmpeg will just disable the bad encoder or at least provide a warning so that people stop using it.

Thank you this is merely what I was pointing out! This is what I was getting at I should have been a little clearer. It seems like in my opinion though nobody is really listening though like NullC!? You know "naysayers" are only going to use this as a jump off point to spear WebM and bitch about how bad the audio quality is due to the fact that the FFMPEG Vorbis encoder has no Psychoacoustics model thus spawning an endless nerd flame fest on Slashdot that will last for two centuries . Many of you may or may not know, but YouTube and other independent video sites for example uses commercial software for mass transcoding, etc. There have been complaints of "ringing artifacts" already on Debian boards.

Canar reporting in with an ABX. A blind monkey could do it. I see deaf people.

Thank for you performing an ABX test to validate the claims. Empirical evidence helps! I didn't doubt him I was just passing the world along I noticed nobody picked up on it here.

This post has been edited by HotshotGG: Jun 15 2010, 05:54