Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?, DJ cart with range of 2 - 5 grams. Using for hi-fi play |
Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?, DJ cart with range of 2 - 5 grams. Using for hi-fi play |
Jul 8 2010, 07:07
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Supposing I've got a brand new Stanton T.92 USB turntable and I'm getting ready to produce some samples.
It comes with a pre-mounted (and presumably pre-aligned) Stanton 500.v3 cartridge. As a DJ cartridge, it has a wide range- 2 to 5 grams- and no specific recommendation within. The tonearm is balanced and the counterweight dial zeroed. What tracking force do you think I should set? Normally the consensus is to set the tracking force near the top of the range and I'm inclined to use 4.5 grams. However, as a DJ cartridge, the top of the range is designed to ensure stability amidst violent scratching motions, which I won't be doing. Maybe 4.5 is overkill for trackability. So, I'm throwing the question open to HA to see if we can't come to an agreement before I began sampling. This post has been edited by Knowzy: Jul 8 2010, 07:09 |
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Jul 26 2010, 22:48
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I'm now using 5 grams of tracking force (the top end of the manufacturer's range) and it's still not enough.
Here's how I got there. After rebalancing, I tried the outermost trackability track. Even at 5 grams, there were a few points of audible mistracking. The innermost track was much worse- constant audible mistracking throughout. Hear for yourself: The start of the FLAC is the outermost track and the end is the innermost track. At +15dB, these tracks seem to be louder than you would typically encounter playing music records. QUOTE ("botface") I actually still use HFS75 for this purpose. You might be interested to know that its sleeve notes say that +14dB "represents a typical hi-fi standard, achieved within the range of most high quality cartridges". So, I wouldn't worry too much if +16dB proved unachievable. Side A has a +14dB version of this track near the end of the record that plays without audible mistracking. At the center of the record, the Stanton could handle +15db at 4 grams. Nonetheless, I'm a bit let down that I couldn't get a smooth play on the inside and the outside of the record no matter how much tracking force I used. |
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Knowzy Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge? Jul 8 2010, 07:07
Axon Would it be too snarky of an answer to say that th... Jul 8 2010, 21:50
Knowzy Before I say too much more, I should disclose that... Jul 8 2010, 22:28
Knowzy I posed this question to Stanton's tech suppor... Jul 9 2010, 00:04
Canar QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 8 2010, 18:04) The cu... Jul 9 2010, 00:50
RonaldDumsfeld The real answer is to experiment and find out for ... Jul 9 2010, 04:07
botface Don't you have a test record? If not I'd s... Jul 9 2010, 09:01
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 04:01) Don... Jul 9 2010, 11:41
Knowzy QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 9 2010, 03... Jul 9 2010, 18:26
botface Aren't those tracks for setting bias? I have H... Jul 9 2010, 19:09
Knowzy QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 11:09) Aren... Jul 10 2010, 07:07
Knowzy Using the +15dB track, I tested down to 2.25g and ... Jul 12 2010, 01:09
botface I can hear mistracking in the right channel of the... Jul 12 2010, 09:57
Knowzy QUOTE (botface @ Jul 12 2010, 01:57) I ca... Jul 12 2010, 22:47
2Bdecided QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 12 2010, 22:47) Axon ... Jul 13 2010, 14:04
2Bdecided Yes, it's important to remember that once the ... Jul 12 2010, 13:07
botface QUOTE If you can hear mistracking then clearly I d... Jul 13 2010, 09:00
Knowzy QUOTE (botface @ Jul 13 2010, 01:00) If y... Jul 13 2010, 18:11
Knowzy The Short Version
I found my tracking force: 4 gra... Jul 14 2010, 06:20
cliveb QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 14 2010, 06:20) Then ... Jul 14 2010, 11:02
Knowzy QUOTE (cliveb @ Jul 14 2010, 03:02) envir... Jul 15 2010, 16:16
botface What you're describing can often be the result... Jul 27 2010, 09:34
Knowzy QUOTE (botface @ Jul 27 2010, 01:34) What... Jul 27 2010, 16:45
Snackcakes I have the same table. this is some great info. Sep 20 2011, 18:46
Glenn Gundlach When I worked in stereo stores, I recommended usin... Sep 20 2011, 23:08![]() ![]() |
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