Call for capable people to do a comparison of rippers Options

[Jan S.]

Hi.

Over the years and recently (here and here) there have been many discussions and questions about the differences between different cd rippers. New rippers with secure ripping facilities (dbpoweramp, CUEtools, foobar etc) have emerged in recent years and it is now difficult to judge compared to some years ago when the only answer was EAC.

For this reason I thought it could be very good to have a page at the wiki trying to explain in a concise form what the differences are. I was imagining a table with features like we have done for the Lossless format comparison but probably also additional text is required.

I do not consider myself close to competent to try to do this but I have tried to setup a starting point for such a page here: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...n_of_CD_rippers
I hope the capable people here will invest some time into this so as to save time repeating these points. Please post your thoughts on this idea: how best to organize?, what to put in the table?, which programs are relevant?, what other issues need to be explain in text?, etc.

Some more links:
wikipedias list of rippers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_ripper
Kind of comparison here for secure ripping features: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Secure_ripping

[greynol]

I don't see how you can say that. It's pretty clear from the post that the offset is largely determined through mathematics and that the AR offset CRC isn't used at all.

As a participant in that discussion, it was pretty obvious that Mr. Chudov didn't know what to do with the second CRC, excluding the fact that you did not tell him from exactly what data in the track it was calculated.

So that my point isn't lost, all AR2 is going to provide over AR1 for people already using the database* to check their rips against alternate pressings is a real CRC algorithm, unless there is something else that you haven't disclosed.

(*) This includes users of XLD, Rip, TripleFlac and nitwits like me who have been using an alternate approach for years before these other methods were made available.

EDIT: I misread your comment about the offset finding non-cyclical checksum being thrown away.

This post has been edited by greynol: Jul 27 2010, 20:44