Potential serious bug in Apple Lossless codec in iTunes 10 |
Potential serious bug in Apple Lossless codec in iTunes 10 |
Oct 6 2010, 06:52
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Hi everyone,
I'm using iTunes 10.0.1.22 on Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit. I noticed a potential bug in the Apple Lossless Codec in iTunes 10 where if you convert a WAV or AIFF file to Apple Lossless format in iTunes, then convert it back to it's original file type (WAV or AIFF respectively) in iTunes, the resulting files are not the same size in bytes or in time length as the original WAV or AIFF files. The files are usually 5KB or so smaller and can be about 1 second shorter than the original files. I did extensive testing with this using various WAV and AIFF files both generated by iTunes (e.g. ripping a CD track) and by other programs and every time the Apple Lossless codec in iTunes does not convert back to the original file's length or file size. Apple Lossless should convert back exactly, but it isn't. In previous versions of iTunes it did, but not in 10.0.1.22. This may also effect the accuracy Apple Lossess (ALAC) file playback in iTunes and conversion to other formats within iTunes as well. I think it's a bug, but can anyone else reproduce this on their systems? or is it just on my system? To test in iTunes: Convert a WAV to Apple Lossess then back to WAV and compare the two WAV's Convert an AIFF to Apple Lossless then back to AIFF and compare the two AIFF's |
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Oct 6 2010, 16:14
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I wonder if other pre-iTunes 10 versions are affected as well.
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Noble Tiger Potential serious bug in Apple Lossless codec in iTunes 10 Oct 6 2010, 06:52
Engelsstaub I just tried this and the file sizes are exactly t... Oct 6 2010, 07:44
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Oct 5 2010, 23:44) T... Oct 6 2010, 08:45
greynol QUOTE (Noble Tiger @ Oct 5 2010, 22:52) T... Oct 6 2010, 08:36
Engelsstaub I didn't know that. I just assumed that the fi... Oct 6 2010, 09:15
Robertina QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Oct 5 2010, 21:15) I... Oct 6 2010, 09:19
Engelsstaub This is what I got with F2K (and now I know how to... Oct 6 2010, 10:36
andy o QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Oct 6 2010, 02:36) T... Oct 6 2010, 14:29
Engelsstaub QUOTE (andy o @ Oct 6 2010, 08:29) QUOTE ... Oct 7 2010, 05:50
mixminus1 Confirmed under Windows XP SP3: a 52 second WAV co... Oct 6 2010, 15:18
twostar Same thing here using iTunes version 10.0.0.68 and... Oct 6 2010, 15:36
mixminus1 It's also interesting that there doesn't s... Oct 6 2010, 15:58
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Oct 6 2010, 16:58) Jus... Oct 6 2010, 20:09
tuffy It's worth noting that the default block size ... Oct 6 2010, 16:05
mixminus1 QUOTE (tuffy @ Oct 6 2010, 08:05) It... Oct 6 2010, 16:39
Corby Same on Mac version of iTunes.
Foobar (running on ... Oct 6 2010, 17:14
Noble Tiger It looks like it is a bug in iTunes 10. I didn... Oct 6 2010, 19:19
mixminus1 Et viola:
CODEDifferences found in 1 out of 1 tra... Oct 6 2010, 20:28
greynol The problem with 3rd party encoders/decoders is th... Oct 7 2010, 05:54
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 6 2010, 23:54) The p... Oct 7 2010, 06:34
greynol Well, no, I'm not ruling out the possibility t... Oct 7 2010, 06:42
Corby QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 7 2010, 06:54) The p... Oct 7 2010, 06:46
Engelsstaub If I didn't currently have an iPod I'd lik... Oct 7 2010, 06:52
greynol I'm part of the camp that thinks lossless on p... Oct 7 2010, 06:57
Engelsstaub Yeah, I'm sorry too, Corby. (I think I was typ... Oct 7 2010, 07:26
greynol Briefly and not to belabor the point or change the... Oct 7 2010, 07:46
vitos I reported this bug to Apple. Oct 8 2010, 15:02
higherlove I tried ALAC -> AAC(iTunes Plus). Sample omiss... Oct 8 2010, 21:27
dv1989 Noble Tiger, I don’t suppose this bug has been fix... Oct 30 2010, 10:40
Noble Tiger No, unfortunately Apple hasn't released a new ... Nov 2 2010, 05:46
Noble Tiger BUG FIXED!
It seems this bug has been fixed w... Nov 13 2010, 22:32
mixminus1 Fix confirmed under OS X 10.6.5, iTunes 10.1.54 - ... Nov 14 2010, 03:37
Engelsstaub I'm glad they fixed this issue. It was making ... Nov 14 2010, 04:30
kawaiigardiner One of the very reasons I just use iTunes as a med... Dec 1 2010, 15:46
RandyOsbourne The problem I see in iTunes is a 96khz-24 bit wav ... Jan 15 2011, 02:43
Engelsstaub QUOTE (RandyOsbourne @ Jan 14 2011, 19:43... Jan 15 2011, 06:49
mixminus1 Not reproducible using iTunes 10.1.1 under OS X 10... Jan 15 2011, 03:13![]() ![]() |
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