R128GAIN: An EBU R128 compliant loudness scanner |
R128GAIN: An EBU R128 compliant loudness scanner |
Jan 5 2011, 19:38
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I've just uploaded on sourceforge a first version of r128gain, an EBU R128 (http://tech.ebu.ch/loudness) compliant loudness scanner:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/r128gain/files/
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Jan 6 2011, 09:19
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On a completely other note... What about patents? I'm no lawyer, but the least I can say is the following: At the time of this writing the implementation of R128GAIN is exclusively based on information publicly available from the following documents:
What is the license for the tool? Is it safe to use your tool in other projects? It's GPLv3 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html) |
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Jan 6 2011, 13:20
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It's GPLv3 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html) Any reason why? To suit "Free" software uses only? Doing so restricts other players like FB2K from using that code, even if a different implementation is made....>_> |
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Jan 6 2011, 15:26
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R128GAIN is heavily based on SoX (uses SoX IO, re-sampler, filters, chain architecture etc.) IO will probably be re-implemented in order to support most of the existing codecs using FFmpeg. Both, SoX and FFmpeg, are GPLed, hence R128GAIN is "GPL infected". Doing so restricts other players like FB2K from using that code, even if a different implementation is made....>_> Yep. |
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Jan 6 2011, 15:53
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ffmepg is v2.1 or later. Is there a reason you went to v3? -------------------- Creature of habit.
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Jan 6 2011, 16:13
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Jan 6 2011, 16:21
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ffmepg is v2.1 or later. Is there a reason you went to v3? Not really. Your call, not mine, but unless you're worried about Tivoation (however you spell it) or one of the other corner cases covered in new by v3, removing v2 becomes a (significant?) restriction on uptake. -------------------- Creature of habit.
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Jan 6 2011, 16:49
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ffmepg is v2.1 or later. Is there a reason you went to v3? Not really. Your call, not mine, but unless you're worried about Tivoation (however you spell it) or one of the other corner cases covered in new by v3, removing v2 becomes a (significant?) restriction on uptake. I've heard about some discussions regarding v3 but I'm not aware of the details. Maybe it's a good idea to relax to v2 later on. |
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Jan 6 2011, 18:37
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ffmepg is v2.1 or later. Is there a reason you went to v3? Not really. Your call, not mine, but unless you're worried about Tivoation (however you spell it) or one of the other corner cases covered in new by v3, removing v2 becomes a (significant?) restriction on uptake. I've heard about some discussions regarding v3 but I'm not aware of the details. Maybe it's a good idea to relax to v2 later on. I strongly recommend using a "v2 or later" type GPL license, rather then explicitly going v3. It makes it MUCH easier for other people to use your code, and the added protections in the v3 aren't particularly relevant here anyway. That said, for this kind of code using a GPL front end and an LGPL backend for the actual DSP library makes a lot of sense since it keeps your tool GPL but still allows a wider range of people to use your code without having to re-implement it. |
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Jan 7 2011, 01:39
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That said, for this kind of code using a GPL front end and an LGPL backend for the actual DSP library makes a lot of sense since it keeps your tool GPL but still allows a wider range of people to use your code without having to re-implement it. I totally agree with this. |
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pbelkner R128GAIN: An EBU R128 compliant loudness scanner Jan 5 2011, 19:38
googlebot Didn't try the tool, yet, but had a look at th... Jan 5 2011, 20:13
pbelkner QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 5 2011, 21:13) Did... Jan 5 2011, 21:32
C.R.Helmrich Wow, thank you so much for this tool! I was al... Jan 5 2011, 23:23
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pbelkner QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 7 2011, 23:35) PS ... Jan 7 2011, 23:21
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 8 2011, 00:21) Many... Jan 8 2011, 14:29
pbelkner QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jan 8 2011, 15:29) ... Jan 10 2011, 17:38
pbelkner QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 10 2011, 18:38) The... Jan 10 2011, 18:01
C.R.Helmrich Exactly, and if you pull out the "/n" in... Jan 10 2011, 18:20
Fandango On a completely other note... What about patents? ... Jan 6 2011, 01:53
mudlord QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 5 2011, 18:53) On a... Jan 6 2011, 13:22
cpchan QUOTE (mudlord @ Jan 6 2011, 08:22) The o... Jan 6 2011, 13:44
mudlord QUOTE (cpchan @ Jan 6 2011, 07:44) QUOTE ... Jan 6 2011, 13:46
Notat Congratulations on this!
I know that BS.1770 ... Jan 6 2011, 02:37
mudlord What is the license for the tool? Jan 6 2011, 03:42
A_Man_Eating_Duck i can't for the life of me get this app to jus... Jan 6 2011, 08:14
pbelkner QUOTE (A_Man_Eating_Duck @ Jan 6 2011, 09... Jan 6 2011, 09:34
cpchan QUOTE (Soap @ Jan 6 2011, 10:53) ffmepg i... Jan 6 2011, 16:09
Zao Note that "use" in mudlord's post is... Jan 6 2011, 13:29
cpchan QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 6 2011, 08:29) If you ev... Jan 6 2011, 13:48
Zao QUOTE (cpchan @ Jan 6 2011, 13:48) QUOTE ... Jan 6 2011, 13:52
cpchan QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 6 2011, 08:52) If more k... Jan 6 2011, 13:59
Zao Even if the end artifact is a program, this preven... Jan 6 2011, 13:47
cpchan QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 6 2011, 08:47) Even if t... Jan 6 2011, 13:52
Zao QUOTE (cpchan @ Jan 6 2011, 13:52) What i... Jan 6 2011, 13:54
Zao If a developer uses a library with one of the usua... Jan 6 2011, 14:02
cpchan QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 6 2011, 09:02) If a deve... Jan 6 2011, 14:14
lvqcl Please remember that QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 6 ... Jan 6 2011, 14:10
Zao You cannot always dynamically link to a library, a... Jan 6 2011, 14:16
cpchan QUOTE (Zao @ Jan 6 2011, 09:16) You canno... Jan 6 2011, 14:33
mudlord QUOTE (cpchan @ Jan 6 2011, 08:33) QUOTE ... Jan 7 2011, 07:19
googlebot QUOTE (mudlord @ Jan 7 2011, 07:19)To avo... Jan 7 2011, 10:46
2Bdecided QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 7 2011, 09:46) No ... Jan 7 2011, 17:45
GHammer Seven of 38 posts on software licensing.
Geesh... Jan 7 2011, 04:39
mudlord QUOTE (GHammer @ Jan 6 2011, 21:39) Seven... Jan 7 2011, 07:14
romor Bad talk. You are free to see his posts if you wan... Jan 7 2011, 15:57
Soap forget it. Jan 7 2011, 16:43
staale Hi,
Just wanted to add that we've released ou... Jan 7 2011, 17:08
googlebot Forget this, too. Else the joke doesn't work o... Jan 7 2011, 17:02
jangk Hello,
back to audio issues again.
Thank you pbel... Jan 7 2011, 17:27
pbelkner QUOTE (jangk @ Jan 7 2011, 18:27) Am I mi... Jan 7 2011, 18:13
jangk QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 7 2011, 18:13) QUOT... Jan 7 2011, 19:13
pbelkner QUOTE (jangk @ Jan 7 2011, 20:13) Anyhow,... Jan 7 2011, 19:56
mudlord QUOTE How about you program your own lib or shut u... Jan 7 2011, 18:57
jdoering Please pardon the noob here; hopefully I'm kee... Jan 8 2011, 00:28
googlebot Completely agree! One doesn't really have ... Jan 8 2011, 01:51
pbelkner QUOTE (jdoering @ Jan 8 2011, 01:28) But ... Jan 8 2011, 09:32
Notat I have it on good authority that the calculation c... Jan 8 2011, 18:42
googlebot A fully standard compliant single-pass outline is ... Jan 8 2011, 19:40
pbelkner v0.3 released
I've just uploaded the new vers... Jan 9 2011, 18:47
googlebot QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 9 2011, 18:47) CODE... Jan 12 2011, 20:26
pbelkner QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 12 2011, 21:26) QU... Jan 13 2011, 10:26
googlebot Works perfectly, great job! Even for multichan... Jan 10 2011, 09:58
googlebot Just out of curiosity, where does that 0.4 come fr... Jan 10 2011, 18:35
jdoering QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 10 2011, 09:35) Ju... Jan 10 2011, 19:27
googlebot Duh. My bad! Jan 10 2011, 21:40
Fandango I have a proposal.
New standard tag fields:
EBU_... Jan 11 2011, 23:14
Notat QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 11 2011, 15:14) Wit... Jan 12 2011, 04:11
Fandango QUOTE (Notat @ Jan 12 2011, 04:11) QUOTE ... Jan 13 2011, 16:21
pbelkner QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 13 2011, 17:21) But... Jan 13 2011, 17:01

2Bdecided QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 13 2011, 16:01) EBU... Jan 13 2011, 17:24
2Bdecided QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 13 2011, 15:21) Mos... Jan 13 2011, 17:20
Fandango PS: I'd say that using GAIN in your prefix is ... Jan 12 2011, 02:02
jdoering I had been hoping that the written tags were being... Jan 12 2011, 06:40
pbelkner QUOTE (jdoering @ Jan 12 2011, 07:40) I h... Jan 12 2011, 10:21
jdoering QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 12 2011, 01:21) QUO... Jan 12 2011, 21:24
pbelkner QUOTE (jdoering @ Jan 12 2011, 22:24) I t... Jan 13 2011, 11:01
jdoering Just compared r128gain output versus ReplayGain fo... Jan 12 2011, 10:18
googlebot I think you both have a valid point.
I also think... Jan 12 2011, 12:58
pbelkner QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 12 2011, 13:58) =... Jan 12 2011, 13:14

C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 12 2011, 14:14) QUO... Jan 12 2011, 18:27


Notat QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jan 12 2011, 10:27)... Jan 13 2011, 02:57


jdoering QUOTE (Notat @ Jan 12 2011, 17:57) QUOTE ... Jan 13 2011, 06:21


C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (jdoering @ Jan 13 2011, 07:21) I... Jan 13 2011, 10:25


pbelkner QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jan 13 2011, 11:25)... Jan 13 2011, 10:37

2Bdecided QUOTE (pbelkner @ Jan 12 2011, 12:14) QUO... Jan 13 2011, 11:23

Notat QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 13 2011, 03:23) Yo... Jan 13 2011, 15:41
pbelkner QUOTE (googlebot @ Jan 12 2011, 13:58) PS... Jan 12 2011, 17:07
googlebot How large are the expected differences? Is there a... Jan 12 2011, 18:46
C.R.Helmrich True. I guess for the averaging we should leave ou... Jan 12 2011, 19:00
Raiden What is so special about pink noise? How does pink... Jan 13 2011, 11:44
googlebot Pink noise has equal energy over all octaves. It... Jan 13 2011, 12:02
jangk Thank you Notat for the link to AES "Loudness... Jan 13 2011, 13:57
benski I'm with David.
I think we should verify the ... Jan 13 2011, 17:27
Fandango So if the old tags are used, how do I know whether... Jan 13 2011, 18:22![]() ![]() |
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