Quicktime TVBR vs Nero AAC |
Quicktime TVBR vs Nero AAC |
 Jan 26 2011, 09:32
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hi guys, what's the general consensus between the two? which is better for encoding using vbr? thanks
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Feb 9 2011, 14:11
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Group: Super Moderator Posts: 4330 Joined: 23-June 06 Member No.: 32180 |
kc2002 just explained that any claim of difference in quality is worth nothing until evidenced by a blind test. Otherwise, expecting to hear differences can cause the listener to hear them where they don't exist.
This post has been edited by dv1989: Feb 9 2011, 14:25 |
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Feb 9 2011, 14:29
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Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 10 From: Argentina Member No.: 83667 |
QUOTE (dv1989 @ Feb 9 2011, 10:11)  expecting to hear differences lead you to hear them where they don't exist. No, i was not expecting to hear any difference. Once i disided to include the qt aac in my gui and make some simple tests using it for video series, and i surprised when i saw the difference at first sight. So i decided to try also with some of my music.. and i said: woow there is a difference. Easy to hear at 128kbps. Im not audio tester, i only noticed a difference and decided to share it here. (i thought people know that difference) so was i wrong? 
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pgm86 Quicktime TVBR vs Nero AAC Jan 26 2011, 09:32
kornchild2002 Well, the best way to answer that question would b... Jan 26 2011, 11:21 Steve Forte Rio (Sorry for my extremely bad English)
In my opinio... Jan 26 2011, 11:55
Centauri 'Extremely bad English'
I wish I could... Jan 28 2011, 00:02
Nowings69 QUOTE (Steve Forte Rio @ Jan 26 2011, 19... Feb 8 2011, 14:06 pgm86 concerning about qt's dynamic range compressio... Feb 5 2011, 07:16 SamDeRe81 Since I can use NeroAACEnc with foobar while apply... Feb 7 2011, 03:54 lvqcl You can use Quicktime AAC in foobar2000 too. Feb 7 2011, 16:31 SamDeRe81 QUOTE (lvqcl @ Feb 7 2011, 07:31) You can... Feb 8 2011, 01:05 list QUOTE (SamDeRe81 @ Feb 7 2011, 21:05) QUO... Feb 8 2011, 02:20 greynol QUOTE (list @ Feb 7 2011, 17:20) for me, ... Feb 8 2011, 08:33 punkrockdude QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 8 2011, 08:33) QUOTE... Feb 8 2011, 15:00 kornchild2002 QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Feb 8 2011, 07:00) ... Feb 9 2011, 07:16 list QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Feb 9 2011, 03:16)... Feb 9 2011, 14:06 punkrockdude QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Feb 9 2011, 07:16)... Feb 9 2011, 22:54 list and what about qt CVBR mode? Feb 8 2011, 15:13 Larson there is also qaac that does the job
http://sites... Feb 8 2011, 07:34 list Ok, here i took some samples at about 128 kbps
ner... Feb 8 2011, 15:26 greynol QUOTE (list @ Feb 8 2011, 06:26) www.medi... Feb 9 2011, 19:23 SamDeRe81 Alright so you think if I encode to 190 AAC I shou... Feb 8 2011, 20:22 list QUOTE (SamDeRe81 @ Feb 8 2011, 16:22) Alr... Feb 8 2011, 21:40 kornchild2002 QUOTE (list @ Feb 9 2011, 06:29) and i sa... Feb 9 2011, 16:44 list QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:44)... Feb 9 2011, 17:02 dv1989 You're missing the point. When you were compar... Feb 9 2011, 14:38 kornchild2002 I really don't understand what you are saying ... Feb 9 2011, 17:45 list sory, but i am new in here ^^ .
I didn't know ... Feb 9 2011, 19:12 list sources+log www.mediafire.com/download.php?7xq5q... Feb 9 2011, 19:31 greynol Thanks.
Are you able to ABX the QT version from t... Feb 9 2011, 19:34 list QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 9 2011, 15:34) Are y... Feb 9 2011, 19:38 greynol ABX is supposed to be performed between lossless a... Feb 9 2011, 19:44 list I tried abx to highlight the existing difference f... Feb 9 2011, 20:07 greynol It means you can distinguish one from the other. ... Feb 9 2011, 20:17 IgorC Hola, List.
Try this http://ff123.net/abchr/abchr.... Feb 9 2011, 20:25 punkrockdude I am going to try the classical piece some day but... Feb 9 2011, 22:58 punkrockdude I tried ogg vorbis which i favour and it was a lit... Feb 9 2011, 23:14 punkrockdude I now saw on the wiki site that 16 attempts is ... Feb 9 2011, 23:22 dv1989 It'd be interesting to know if you can detect ... Feb 9 2011, 23:26 punkrockdude QUOTE (dv1989 @ Feb 9 2011, 23:26) It... Feb 9 2011, 23:29 list I tried the same sample with QT at 192kbps and it ... Feb 9 2011, 23:49 punkrockdude Here is my ABX of the classical (ludwig piece). Wh... Feb 10 2011, 00:04 punkrockdude I did a second ABX of the classical (ludwig) piece... Feb 10 2011, 00:20 C.R.Helmrich Am I blind, or where did you and list get the prod... Feb 10 2011, 00:35 punkrockdude QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Feb 10 2011, 00:35)... Feb 10 2011, 00:36 punkrockdude C.R.: Both files were included in the file that I ... Feb 10 2011, 21:26 Martel NeroAAC is still suffering from the bug I reported... Feb 10 2011, 13:17 greynol 1) No one is being ridiculed.
2) It is readily ap... Feb 10 2011, 19:31 C.R.Helmrich Ah, thanks. By the way, since list supposedly ABXe... Feb 10 2011, 22:59 3biga My choice is QT (--tvbr 120). Nero has good detail... Feb 20 2011, 19:43 Larson Mac OS X Lion beta has Quicktime 7.7.1, have to se... Feb 25 2011, 13:36 /mnt I find QuickTime to be pretty weak against sharp t... Feb 25 2011, 21:51 Steve Forte Rio /mnt, have you tried this sample with qt aac?
bea... Feb 25 2011, 23:01 /mnt QUOTE (Steve Forte Rio @ Feb 25 2011, 23... Feb 26 2011, 02:09 TechVsLife QUOTE (/mnt @ Feb 25 2011, 20:09) It soun... Feb 28 2011, 20:25 TechVsLife I also have a more general question, if this bug a... Mar 3 2011, 19:35 nu774 QUOTE (Steve Forte Rio @ Feb 26 2011, 07... Apr 22 2011, 14:12 C.R.Helmrich If space doesn't matter to you, then yes, CBR ... Mar 4 2011, 11:01 TechVsLife QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Mar 4 2011, 05:01) ... Mar 4 2011, 21:58 SamDeRe81 =/ I want to re-encode my stuff but I think I... Mar 4 2011, 15:48 Larson QUOTE (SamDeRe81 @ Mar 4 2011, 15:48) =/ ... Mar 4 2011, 16:47 C.R.Helmrich I agree with Larson. Start with some ABX test of, ... Mar 4 2011, 20:27 TechVsLife QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Mar 4 2011, 14:27) ... Mar 4 2011, 22:06 C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (TechVsLife @ Mar 4 2011, 23:06) QU... Mar 5 2011, 01:26 Wombat I am able to abx "some" of the stuff /nm... Mar 5 2011, 01:57 TechVsLife QUOTE (Wombat @ Mar 4 2011, 19:57) But it... Mar 5 2011, 20:44 TechVsLife I also wonder if (like CBR 256) quicktime ABR 256 ... Mar 6 2011, 05:23 Brand I did some quick ABXing and I wasn't too impre... Dec 4 2011, 14:08 ShotCaller This is QT TVBR q82, which is the closest in bitra... Dec 4 2011, 21:10 Brand Thanks!
The file is smaller than I expected, ... Dec 5 2011, 00:44 ShotCaller Sure, this is q91. Bitrate is 178kbps average and ... Dec 5 2011, 01:06 Brand Thanks. I could still ABX that without too much di... Dec 5 2011, 11:17 eahm QUOTE (Brand @ Dec 5 2011, 03:17) Thanks.... Oct 24 2012, 19:21 Brand The ABX log regarding what specifically?
Anyway, ... Oct 25 2012, 11:38 |
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