Audio absurdities |
Audio absurdities |
Mar 26 2011, 05:25
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Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 11 Member No.: 88533 |
Hi All,
I have been active in the (high end) audio world for about 25 years. My main interest has always been loudspeakers and design. As such, together with a friend of mine, we have created some pretty decent loudspeakers. We did this just for fun. Contrary of what you might expect, I have not invested in expensive equipment myself, mainly because there is only so much money I am willing (or able for that matter) to spend on it , and I like to listen to the music and not to the equipment. However, during this time I have run into what I would like to call "Audio Absurdities". By that I mean things that people do (usually this involves spending a lot of money) to make their setup sound better. One thing you should know of me is that over the years I have become a very skeptical person with regards to audio. But that does not mean I have lost my sense of humor. Hence this tread... I would like to invite you to post your experience with this type of things. Be it for either generate a good laugh, or warn other readers for costly "audio improvements" that can be categorized being scams. Have fun or be warned :-) My first contribution: The Magic Woodblocks About four years ago I heard from a to remain unnamed person that he had obtained little pieces of wood, about 2" square, varying in thickness depending on application, that should be placed under the equipment's feet. According to the vendor, the wood was from a rare species of trees only to be found in the Amazon. The audible results were claimed to be like "upgrading your equipment to a model twice the price". And that for only US$250 to US$375 per set of three... |
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Mar 27 2011, 23:21
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Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 11 Member No.: 88533 |
@dv1989:
Thanks for your compliment! @All - Another one... Some 10 years ago I visited an audio store in town I had never been before. I got into a conversation with one of the owners. After a little while, he introduced me to the Nordhorst brand they were dealers of. He apparently was very taken with a digital interconnect he had bought (at a discount) to connect his CD-player and external DAC, replacing the AudioQuest interconnect. According to him, the results were astonishing: lower & tighter bass, deeper and wider soundstage / imaging, you name it. And even his wife and kid could easily hear the difference. I asked him what possibly could cause this result. He pointed out a Nordhorst poster that explained that the cable in question was capable of transporting electrical signals at 98 percent (or something like that) of the speed of light, while competing cables only could go up to 83 percent (or something like that). I replied that this information still did not tell me the WHY. His answer was: "Jitter, man, jitter. This cable eliminates jitter because it is so fast!". I tried to explain to him that the electrical pulses still arrived in the same order, and with the same time interval, regardless of the speed they were transported, but I was unable to communicate that to him. When I asked him if he would submit his findings to a blind test, he refused and basically accused me of calling him a liar. |
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Mar 29 2011, 10:48
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I asked him what possibly could cause this result. He pointed out a Nordhorst poster that explained that the cable in question was capable of transporting electrical signals at 98 percent (or something like that) of the speed of light, while competing cables only could go up to 83 percent (or something like that). I replied that this information still did not tell me the WHY. His answer was: "Jitter, man, jitter. This cable eliminates jitter because it is so fast!". What I'd like to know is how they actually arrived at those 98% speed-of-light and 83% speed-of-light figures. |
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thesurfingalien Audio absurdities Mar 26 2011, 05:25
hlloyge http://www.shunmook.com/text1.htm
QUOTE The Mping... Mar 26 2011, 09:47
thesurfingalien Hi All,
To make sure everybody understands correc... Mar 26 2011, 14:14
thesurfingalien Second contribution...
I was informed of a produc... Mar 26 2011, 14:39
SpiderJon Anything by Peter Belt.
The free ideas are stagge... Mar 26 2011, 20:25
dv1989 Two words:
Brilliant Pebbles.
Insert anti-marketin... Mar 26 2011, 21:38
thesurfingalien QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 26 2011, 17:38) Two w... Mar 27 2011, 01:20
SpiderJon QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 27 2011, 00... Mar 27 2011, 01:28
Wombat With digital audio coming to streaming devices lik... Mar 26 2011, 22:23
dv1989 No, but my friend Google would! Alright, it... Mar 27 2011, 01:30
thesurfingalien @dv1989
I thought I missed something language wis... Mar 27 2011, 02:02
dv1989 QUOTE language wiseWell, I read earlier that Engli... Mar 27 2011, 02:07
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (WonderSlug @ Mar 29 2011, 05:48) Q... Mar 30 2011, 01:27
WonderSlug QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Mar 29 2011, 17... Mar 30 2011, 04:20
thesurfingalien And yet another one:
I can not recall when I hear... Mar 28 2011, 23:35
thesurfingalien And another...
After I got my Naim setup, I decid... Mar 29 2011, 00:30
thesurfingalien @WonderSlug:
I did a Google "http://www.goog... Mar 29 2011, 12:46
thesurfingalien While this is probably funny for most people, it i... Mar 29 2011, 22:42
DonP QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 29 2011, 16... Apr 7 2011, 21:32
pdq At 300 million meters per second, that is just 3.3... Mar 30 2011, 12:37
thesurfingalien About the cable speed...
If I understand correctl... Mar 30 2011, 12:54
pdq QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 07... Mar 30 2011, 13:46
thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 09:46) If diffe... Mar 30 2011, 14:56
pdq QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 09... Mar 30 2011, 15:33
thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 11:33) A pulse ... Mar 30 2011, 16:00
Andavari CD rings/guards which were thin round rings either... Mar 30 2011, 13:10
probedb QUOTE (Andavari @ Mar 30 2011, 13:10) CD ... Mar 30 2011, 13:44
Porcus QUOTE (probedb @ Mar 30 2011, 13:44) QUOT... Apr 5 2011, 22:11
probedb QUOTE (Porcus @ Apr 5 2011, 22:11) On som... Apr 6 2011, 10:07
BearcatSandor QUOTE (probedb @ Apr 6 2011, 03:07) QUOTE... Apr 7 2011, 19:23
Porcus QUOTE (probedb @ Apr 6 2011, 10:07) QUOTE... Apr 8 2011, 07:59
tropicalfish QUOTE (probedb @ Apr 6 2011, 04:07) QUOTE... Apr 9 2011, 05:58
thesurfingalien I can not remember when, but at some time one coul... Mar 30 2011, 13:36
WonderSlug QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 05... Mar 30 2011, 16:50
thesurfingalien This is hear-say, and I have some serious doubts i... Mar 30 2011, 14:29
pdq I hope this won't be considered too far off-to... Mar 30 2011, 16:20
Roseval QUOTE The Blackbody is a high-tech audio accessory... Mar 30 2011, 16:55
ron mexico QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 30 2011, 16:55) QUOT... Mar 30 2011, 23:25
BearcatSandor QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 30 2011, 09:55) QUOT... Apr 7 2011, 19:10
antz QUOTE (BearcatSandor @ Apr 7 2011, 18:10)... Apr 7 2011, 20:07
BearcatSandor QUOTE (antz @ Apr 7 2011, 13:07) QUOTE (B... Apr 7 2011, 21:53
pdq Years ago a friend of mine was working at Radio Sh... Mar 30 2011, 17:01
thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 13:01) Years ag... Mar 30 2011, 17:08
pdq QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 12... Mar 30 2011, 17:31
thesurfingalien @pdg:
That is a very clear explanation... Thanks... Mar 30 2011, 17:05
thesurfingalien In Holland there is a pretty "famous" lo... Mar 30 2011, 18:14
PoisonDan This is a nice site, collecting all kinds of audio... Mar 30 2011, 20:41
DVDdoug "Audio Absurdities" would be a great tit... Mar 31 2011, 00:25
Speedskater "The Audio Critic" magazine when it was ... Mar 31 2011, 15:30
BearcatSandor Um.... magic dots which can be covered by white pa... Mar 31 2011, 17:21
Speedskater I was just reminded of this one on another forum:
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antz Please close this thread before I die laughing. I ... Apr 5 2011, 14:27
thesurfingalien QUOTE (antz @ Apr 5 2011, 10:27) Please c... Apr 5 2011, 22:09
andy o "Quantum" is one of the words up there w... Apr 5 2011, 17:56
flaminio No thread of this sort would be complete without t... Apr 5 2011, 20:27
BearcatSandor That's not quite a Cat-5 is it? If you look t... Apr 5 2011, 21:12
Cavaille QUOTE (Porcus @ Apr 8 2011, 07:59) QUOTE ... Apr 8 2011, 13:03
Porcus QUOTE (Cavaille @ Apr 8 2011, 13:03) The ... Apr 9 2011, 08:47![]() ![]() |
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