Audio absurdities |
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Mar 26 2011, 05:25
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Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 11 Member No.: 88533 |
Hi All,
I have been active in the (high end) audio world for about 25 years. My main interest has always been loudspeakers and design. As such, together with a friend of mine, we have created some pretty decent loudspeakers. We did this just for fun. Contrary of what you might expect, I have not invested in expensive equipment myself, mainly because there is only so much money I am willing (or able for that matter) to spend on it , and I like to listen to the music and not to the equipment. However, during this time I have run into what I would like to call "Audio Absurdities". By that I mean things that people do (usually this involves spending a lot of money) to make their setup sound better. One thing you should know of me is that over the years I have become a very skeptical person with regards to audio. But that does not mean I have lost my sense of humor. Hence this tread... I would like to invite you to post your experience with this type of things. Be it for either generate a good laugh, or warn other readers for costly "audio improvements" that can be categorized being scams. Have fun or be warned :-) My first contribution: The Magic Woodblocks About four years ago I heard from a to remain unnamed person that he had obtained little pieces of wood, about 2" square, varying in thickness depending on application, that should be placed under the equipment's feet. According to the vendor, the wood was from a rare species of trees only to be found in the Amazon. The audible results were claimed to be like "upgrading your equipment to a model twice the price". And that for only US$250 to US$375 per set of three... |
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Mar 30 2011, 13:10
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 933 Joined: 3-June 02 From: USA Member No.: 2204 |
CD rings/guards which were thin round rings either rubber or flexible plastic that went on the outside edge of a CD (personally I'd just call them CD rubbers) were in some audio-type magazines back in the 1990s.
They were marketed as "protecting and stabilizing to increase audio quality" for audio CDs during playback since they supposedly raised CDs an insignificant amount off the CD tray. But in reality they caused more problems, could get slightly baked onto the CD leaving residue behind on the outer ring of the disc, and if they broke off whilst inside a CD player it could become damaged. -------------------- Complexity of incoherent design.
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Mar 30 2011, 13:44
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Group: Members Posts: 947 Joined: 6-September 04 Member No.: 16817 |
CD rings/guards which were thin round rings either rubber or flexible plastic that went on the outside edge of a CD (personally I'd just call them CD rubbers) were in some audio-type magazines back in the 1990s. They were marketed as "protecting and stabilizing to increase audio quality" for audio CDs during playback since they supposedly raised CDs an insignificant amount off the CD tray. But in reality they caused more problems, could get slightly baked onto the CD leaving residue behind on the outer ring of the disc, and if they broke off whilst inside a CD player it could become damaged. That's quite amusing considering the CDs don't sit on the tray during playback anyways |
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Apr 5 2011, 22:11
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1468 Joined: 30-November 06 Member No.: 38207 |
CD rings/guards which were thin round rings either rubber or flexible plastic that went on the outside edge of a CD (personally I'd just call them CD rubbers) were in some audio-type magazines back in the 1990s. They were marketed as "protecting and stabilizing to increase audio quality" for audio CDs during playback since they supposedly raised CDs an insignificant amount off the CD tray. But in reality they caused more problems, could get slightly baked onto the CD leaving residue behind on the outer ring of the disc, and if they broke off whilst inside a CD player it could become damaged. That's quite amusing considering the CDs don't sit on the tray during playback anyways On some Pioneer models, it would. The disc would be upside-down on a turning platter, meaning that you could not use those plastic disc clamps. I actually heard a «disc clamp» kind of thing that made an audible difference. I mean, a «WTF?» level of difference. Never had the chance to check out the details, but I suspect there was some resonance rattling off in the player itself. (Hm ... if I had such a CD ring, I'd try the trick on my early DVD-player ...) I can not remember when, but at some time one could buy a black CD marker that one should apply to the outer edge of a CD, coloring it black, claiming improvement on sound. I can not recall the specifics, but it had something to do with canceling reflections. I believe it was an audiophile magazine that analyzed the markers, and found out they were nothing more than regular permanent markers (the Edding brand if I recall correctly), sold at about 25 times the price of the original. Obvious fraud. The ones that did deliver the sonic bliss, were the green ones. -------------------- geocities.com/hydrogenaudio: http://goo.gl/tqYZj
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Apr 6 2011, 10:07
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Group: Members Posts: 947 Joined: 6-September 04 Member No.: 16817 |
On some Pioneer models, it would. The disc would be upside-down on a turning platter, meaning that you could not use those plastic disc clamps. I actually heard a «disc clamp» kind of thing that made an audible difference. I mean, a «WTF?» level of difference. Never had the chance to check out the details, but I suspect there was some resonance rattling off in the player itself. (Hm ... if I had such a CD ring, I'd try the trick on my early DVD-player ...) I didn't realise that. Wouldn't you just have a continuous scraping sound as the disc rotated on the surface it was sitting on though? Plus all that friction wouldn't be good would it? |
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Apr 8 2011, 07:59
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On some Pioneer models, it would. The disc would be upside-down on a turning platter, meaning that you could not use those plastic disc clamps. I didn't realise that. Wouldn't you just have a continuous scraping sound as the disc rotated on the surface it was sitting on though? Plus all that friction wouldn't be good would it? No: Put the disc upside down on a «turntable» platter. The platter rotates. -------------------- geocities.com/hydrogenaudio: http://goo.gl/tqYZj
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thesurfingalien Audio absurdities Mar 26 2011, 05:25
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thesurfingalien @dv1989
I thought I missed something language wis... Mar 27 2011, 02:02
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thesurfingalien @dv1989:
Thanks for your compliment!
@All -... Mar 27 2011, 23:21
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Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (WonderSlug @ Mar 29 2011, 05:48) Q... Mar 30 2011, 01:27
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thesurfingalien And yet another one:
I can not recall when I hear... Mar 28 2011, 23:35
thesurfingalien And another...
After I got my Naim setup, I decid... Mar 29 2011, 00:30
thesurfingalien @WonderSlug:
I did a Google "http://www.goog... Mar 29 2011, 12:46
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DonP QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 29 2011, 16... Apr 7 2011, 21:32
pdq At 300 million meters per second, that is just 3.3... Mar 30 2011, 12:37
thesurfingalien About the cable speed...
If I understand correctl... Mar 30 2011, 12:54
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thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 09:46) If diffe... Mar 30 2011, 14:56
pdq QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 09... Mar 30 2011, 15:33
thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 11:33) A pulse ... Mar 30 2011, 16:00
BearcatSandor QUOTE (probedb @ Apr 6 2011, 03:07) QUOTE... Apr 7 2011, 19:23
tropicalfish QUOTE (probedb @ Apr 6 2011, 04:07) QUOTE... Apr 9 2011, 05:58
thesurfingalien I can not remember when, but at some time one coul... Mar 30 2011, 13:36
WonderSlug QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 05... Mar 30 2011, 16:50
thesurfingalien This is hear-say, and I have some serious doubts i... Mar 30 2011, 14:29
pdq I hope this won't be considered too far off-to... Mar 30 2011, 16:20
Roseval QUOTE The Blackbody is a high-tech audio accessory... Mar 30 2011, 16:55
ron mexico QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 30 2011, 16:55) QUOT... Mar 30 2011, 23:25
BearcatSandor QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 30 2011, 09:55) QUOT... Apr 7 2011, 19:10
antz QUOTE (BearcatSandor @ Apr 7 2011, 18:10)... Apr 7 2011, 20:07
BearcatSandor QUOTE (antz @ Apr 7 2011, 13:07) QUOTE (B... Apr 7 2011, 21:53
pdq Years ago a friend of mine was working at Radio Sh... Mar 30 2011, 17:01
thesurfingalien QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 30 2011, 13:01) Years ag... Mar 30 2011, 17:08
pdq QUOTE (thesurfingalien @ Mar 30 2011, 12... Mar 30 2011, 17:31
thesurfingalien @pdg:
That is a very clear explanation... Thanks... Mar 30 2011, 17:05
thesurfingalien In Holland there is a pretty "famous" lo... Mar 30 2011, 18:14
PoisonDan This is a nice site, collecting all kinds of audio... Mar 30 2011, 20:41
DVDdoug "Audio Absurdities" would be a great tit... Mar 31 2011, 00:25
Speedskater "The Audio Critic" magazine when it was ... Mar 31 2011, 15:30
BearcatSandor Um.... magic dots which can be covered by white pa... Mar 31 2011, 17:21
Speedskater I was just reminded of this one on another forum:
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antz Please close this thread before I die laughing. I ... Apr 5 2011, 14:27
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andy o "Quantum" is one of the words up there w... Apr 5 2011, 17:56
flaminio No thread of this sort would be complete without t... Apr 5 2011, 20:27
BearcatSandor That's not quite a Cat-5 is it? If you look t... Apr 5 2011, 21:12
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