is Ogg Vorbis the best Lossy encoder? (what is?) Options

[snadge]

ive been trying to find out which encoder produces the best audio quality at similar bitrates (say 128k) to other lossy encoders - ive seen a couple of reviews and tests and they seem to point to Ogg Vorbis as being the better encoder - I encoded a WAV file to MP3, AAC, WMA & Vorbis all at 128k CBR and while it was hard to tell any difference the Ogg Vorbis was pumping out higher frequencies at 20Khz + and the rest were up to 18Khz (according to spectrum on Foobar2000)

the only gripe is during conversion Ogg Vorbis was the only one that didnt have the Tag info from the WAV file.

can anyone lead me to more listening test results and the likes so i can ascertain for myself? - i would like others views on "best lossy codec" etc

I read on Wikipedia that AAC at 128k is supposedly Transparent to the lossless source according to listening tests by M-PEG for ITU or something? - I was hoping to adopt AAC as my default rip codec as I have an iPod and MP3 player that plays AAC - but Iam in the market for a new media-player so all this is irrelevant as I can buy something to suite.

thanks in advance for replies

please be gentle...im a noob at all this,

This post has been edited by snadge: Jun 8 2011, 04:17

[K-Meleon]

@OP: This test shows that 96 kbps QuickTime AAC is superior to Lame -v5, so at 128 kbps it should be much better: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=66949

You can encode to qtaacenc using foobar: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=78072

I'm happy with Q65, which actually averages out to about 120 kbps in my collection.

Granted, I haven't tried Ogg Vorbis and can't speak for or against its quality, but AAC is a native codec to the iPod, and you won't have to muck around with alternate firmwares, etc. to get vorbis working.

(Edit: Whoops, didn't see that you gave your iPod away. Still, AAC is much more widely supported than ogg vorbis...)

This post has been edited by K-Meleon: Jun 16 2011, 07:31

[B7k]

@OP: This test shows that 96 kbps QuickTime AAC is superior to Lame -v5, so at 128 kbps it should be much better: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=66949

You can encode to qtaacenc using foobar: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=78072

I'm happy with Q65, which actually averages out to about 120 kbps in my collection.

Granted, I haven't tried Ogg Vorbis and can't speak for or against its quality, but AAC is a native codec to the iPod, and you won't have to muck around with alternate firmwares, etc. to get vorbis working.

(Edit: Whoops, didn't see that you gave your iPod away. Still, AAC is much more widely supported than ogg vorbis...)

Their are many devices that can play vorbis check out http://wiki.xiph.org/PortablePlayers and don't forget that the droids can play vorbis as well bye bye Iphone. Apples ipod firmware is a joke with rockbox on the Ipod you have so much more control over the sound of you're player with a full EQ no crappy presets. also you're ipod turns into a portable hdd that can be plugged and played with any pc and dose not need Itunes.