New Public Listening Test (July-August 2011), Discussion on preparation |
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New Public Listening Test (July-August 2011), Discussion on preparation |
 Jul 14 2011, 22:24
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Ok, it is totally understandable. I was just so excited after my own experimental tests with the new encoder.
Maybe there is a chance to organize a new test sometime in the near future, maybe HE-AAC test ? (sorry foraccidental double-posting) |
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Jul 14 2011, 23:16
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Perhaps, and please realize that anyone else can conduct/host such a test, assuming he has the time and resources.
In the meantime, let's keep this on-topic, please. This post has been edited by greynol: Jul 14 2011, 23:36 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Jul 14 2011, 23:20
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
@jukkap
Can you open the new topic and tell us more about upcoming Dolby Pulse AAC encoder?  |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:41
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
QUOTE (benski @ Jul 9 2011, 22:53)  You could also do it in winamp if you manually edit the encoder settings INI file (i think it's %appdata%\winamp\plugins\ml_transcode.ini), although the configuration UI *might* revert to a different bitrate when it gets displayed. You could uncheck "show me this every time" in the pre-transcode configuration UI to avoid that, though. I have encoded the CT files this way. It works. Thank you for explanation. Some notes: FhG 1.01 was used for this test. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=761865 Low anchor is ffmpeg's AAC but at 96 kbps http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/sta...win32-static.7z 128 kbps was too good to be the low anchor. lvqcl was right about it. It was proposed some time ago to concatenate the sample because CVBR has some not constant behaviour on some samples. But the downside of concatenation that it's invasive for encoders. So we would solve one problem but create another ones. I wouldn't worry about CVBR as it has produced the same bitrate distribution on the test samples as other competitors. Here is a complete package (ABC/HR and all samples). www.mediafire.com/?q3lrkb3ogll8jdt ABCHR configurations for verification http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=763167 Please, check all conditions. If everything is good then the test will be open this weekend. CODE Sample 01 - Reunion Blues Sample 02 - Castanets Sample 03 - Berlin Drug Sample 04 - Enola Gay Sample 05 - Malher Sample 06 - Toms Diner Sample 07 - I want to break free Sample 08 - Skinny2a Sample 09 - Fugue Premikres notes Sample 10 - Jerkin Back n Forth Sample 11 - Blackwater Sample 12 - Dogies Sample 13 - Convulsion Sample 14 - Trumpet Sample 15 - A train Sample 16 - Enchantment Sample 17 - Experiencia Sample 18 - Male speech Sample 19 - Smashing Pumpkins - Earphoria Sample 20 - on the roof with Quasimodo Thanks You very much , /mnt and Steve Forte Rio, for your collaboration on random selection of the samples. This post has been edited by IgorC: Jul 15 2011, 05:48 |
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Jul 15 2011, 09:36
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QUOTE Sample 01 - Reunion Blues Where does that come from? In the Samples_selected.xls posted by Steve Forte Rio, there was a "1.flac" which seems to have been replaced. Not that I care much, but what was the reason for this change? And another kind request: Please check for artifacts in the 20 Winamp encodings which are similar to the one Alex B described. These reveal a (rare) bug. I did a brief test and couldn't find any, so that bug doesn't seem to show up in the test samples, but I'm sick at the moment, and my hearing sucks. Thanks, Chris -------------------- If I don't reply to your reply, it means I agree with you.
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Jul 15 2011, 09:46
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
The samples are the same.
Reunion Blues is ''Jazz'' And "1.flac" is Smashing Pumpkins - Earphoria QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Jul 15 2011, 05:36) And another kind request: Please check for artifacts in the 20 Winamp encodings which are similar to the one Alex B described. These reveal a (rare) bug. I did a brief test and couldn't find any, so that bug doesn't seem to show up in the test samples, but I'm sick at the moment, and my hearing sucks. I haven't found any issues. Some loud samples like 7,8 and 17 were suspicious at the first time but I couldn't hear anything wrong with them. This post has been edited by IgorC: Jul 15 2011, 10:07 |
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Jul 15 2011, 12:23
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Sample "Skinny2a" is Grave Wisdom by Skinny Puppy.
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Jul 15 2011, 13:31
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QUOTE (IgorC @ Jul 15 2011, 10:46) Reunion Blues is ''Jazz'' And "1.flac" is Smashing Pumpkins - Earphoria QUOTE I haven't found any issues. Great, thanks! Chris This post has been edited by C.R.Helmrich: Jul 15 2011, 13:32 -------------------- If I don't reply to your reply, it means I agree with you.
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Jul 15 2011, 14:31
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Group: Developer Posts: 618 Joined: 6-December 08 From: Erlangen Germany Member No.: 64012 |
Igor, I was just asking two simple questions. What is the problem? You were asking to "Please, check all conditions.", so I did a bit of that.
Chris This post has been edited by C.R.Helmrich: Jul 15 2011, 14:31 -------------------- If I don't reply to your reply, it means I agree with you.
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Jul 15 2011, 15:44
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QUOTE (IgorC @ Jul 14 2011, 23:20) @jukkap Can you open the new topic and tell us more about upcoming Dolby Pulse AAC encoder? I will be able to provide more information at the time the software is actually released. |
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Jul 15 2011, 16:55
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Hm, I can't see a real good reason why FhG encoder shouldn't participate.
Though Chris' questions probably have in mind giving 'his' encoder good chances I can't see a real inappropriate behavior. In case you find it inappropriate to answer the question for a change in samples (not my opinion), you just could refuse the answer. I'd find it great if you could give FhG another chance. This post has been edited by halb27: Jul 15 2011, 17:00 -------------------- lame3100i -V0.5+ --adbr_short 480
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Jul 16 2011, 08:33
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Igor, I think your decision was overkill. FhG encoder is one of the most interesting participants in this test. Could you give it another chance?
Chris, I understand your interests here (particularly your concern over the samples selection). This test is public and fully transparent for everyone. But you have to agree - this peculiarity mustn't negatively affect it's success. Hopefully, we'll settle this conflict as soon as possible and will return to our independent testing. |
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Jul 16 2011, 10:18
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IgorC, final warning. Either you continue the conversation and the test in a civilized manner, or you are on your way out here.
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Jul 16 2011, 23:49
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Fine. Understood.
QUOTE (halb27 @ Jul 15 2011, 12:55) I'd find it great if you could give FhG another chance. QUOTE (Steve Forte Rio @ Jul 16 2011, 04:33) I think your decision was overkill. FhG encoder is one of the most interesting participants in this test. Could you give it another chance? In fact I'm also very interesting to test it. So it's in. I hope all previous disagreements were just misunderstanding (not English native speakers) . |
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Jul 17 2011, 08:25
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QUOTE (menno @ Jun 28 2011, 17:53) I don't think it's a waste of time to test FAAC, by far most AAC content is encoded with it, especially in the 96kbps range. Testing FAAC can provide clear and up to date argumentation for why many internet services should or shouldn't keep using a free solution as opposed to a commercial solution. Hi menno, long time no see. Could you tell me which internet services use FAAC at 96 kbps (YouTube within the FLV/MP4 format?) or maybe send me a PM to avoid off-topic postings in this thread?
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Jul 17 2011, 22:16
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Until the beginning of the test I want to say how it's important for me. A lot of people (including me) have waited a lot of time for such test.
We will test commercial LC-AAC encoders and it will be my responsibility to conduct it in fair and open manners. I expect the honest attitude from all interested parties and participants. We will control the results. All you have to do is rank the competitors basing on what you hear I will ask administrators to close this topic. The test will begin shortly. This post has been edited by IgorC: Jul 17 2011, 22:18 |
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