Normalize Vs Volume increase |
Normalize Vs Volume increase |
 Jun 29 2011, 23:08
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I'm having trouble figuring out which of the two is better for me to create a vinyl recording at the highest volume without clipping.
I capture a record via my preamp into Audacity, and I get what seem to be relatively low levels even though I make sure the levels are right when I record (Peak: -6.4db, RMS -24.6db). Am I doing something wrong? Or are those levels right? These recordings don't seem as loud as mastered CDs. Anyway, to get the most accurate sound possible, should I use normalize or just increase the volume? If normalizing makes everything sound the same at a peak level, doesn't that completely screw with the dynamic range of the music? Thanks! |
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Jun 30 2011, 22:39
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No, just that when I choose 32-bit (IEEE float) it tells me
"An error occurred while opening an audio device. An unsupported media type was requested. USB Preamp (USB Audio Codec) does not support 32-bit floating point input." |
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tinpanalley Normalize Vs Volume increase Jun 29 2011, 23:08
DVDdoug Audacity's Amplify effect has an option of set... Jun 30 2011, 00:43
db1989 tinpanalley, your observation matches tracks that ... Jun 30 2011, 12:31 tinpanalley Thanks so much for the thorough reply. So, 2 quest... Jun 30 2011, 01:06 DVDdoug QUOTE 1. What do you recommend I do with my settin... Jun 30 2011, 01:52 tinpanalley QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jun 29 2011, 20:52) CDs ... Jun 30 2011, 02:05 AndyH-ha There is no "need" to amplify or normali... Jun 30 2011, 02:55 tinpanalley But doesn't normalizing in making all loudness... Jun 30 2011, 03:09 tropicalfish QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Jun 29 2011, 21:09) ... Jun 30 2011, 05:15 tinpanalley QUOTE (tropicalfish @ Jun 30 2011, 00:15)... Jun 30 2011, 08:31 tinpanalley Well here's what I have... I think this will h... Jun 30 2011, 17:51 tropicalfish Record with Audacity.
Go to Normalize, and check O... Jun 30 2011, 19:25 db1989 QUOTE (tropicalfish @ Jun 30 2011, 19:25)... Jun 30 2011, 19:43 tropicalfish QUOTE (db1989 @ Jun 30 2011, 13:43) QUOTE... Jun 30 2011, 22:51 db1989 QUOTE (tropicalfish @ Jun 30 2011, 22:51)... Jul 1 2011, 13:25 tinpanalley Perhaps I should have also stated that the way I r... Jun 30 2011, 20:31 AndyH-ha A recording made with proper equipment should not ... Jun 30 2011, 20:51 2Bdecided QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jun 30 2011, 20:51... Jul 1 2011, 18:19 musicollector QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jun 30 2011, 12:51... Nov 28 2011, 04:30 tinpanalley Ok, how about if I just control that from the phon... Jun 30 2011, 20:55 mixminus1 I'll second AndyH's advice on recording bo... Jun 30 2011, 21:01 tinpanalley I basically already do what you're suggesting ... Jun 30 2011, 21:06 AndyH-ha The gain is normally set to leave plenty of headro... Jun 30 2011, 21:24 tinpanalley QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jun 30 2011, 16:24... Jun 30 2011, 21:30 DVDdoug QUOTE How do I know if my sound card can handle 32... Jun 30 2011, 21:36 mixminus1 Audacity has the option to export to bit depths gr... Jun 30 2011, 21:40 tinpanalley QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Jun 30 2011, 16:40) Of... Jun 30 2011, 21:43 AndyH-ha Audacity is FREEware.
If may also be adequate for... Jun 30 2011, 22:15 tinpanalley Ok, I'm trying Sound Forge now. Aiming for -6d... Jun 30 2011, 22:16 mixminus1 QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Jun 30 2011, 14:16) ... Jun 30 2011, 22:36 AndyH-ha It may be true that most editors work in floating ... Jun 30 2011, 22:25 tinpanalley You see, that's what I thought. Jun 30 2011, 23:05 tropicalfish There are no 32-bit devices, so why use it? You mi... Jun 30 2011, 23:22 tinpanalley QUOTE (tropicalfish @ Jun 30 2011, 18:22)... Jun 30 2011, 23:52 tropicalfish So you want to record in floating point, and then ... Jul 1 2011, 01:15 tinpanalley I don't really care how I record. I just wanna... Jul 1 2011, 01:28 DVDdoug QUOTE 1. What do you recommend I do with my settin... Jul 1 2011, 01:53 tinpanalley All the 24 and 32 bit stuff still has me really co... Jul 1 2011, 04:08 2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Jul 1 2011, 04:08) I... Jul 1 2011, 18:25 tinpanalley Thanks for the wonderful feedback. Just wanted to ... Jul 1 2011, 19:51 AndyH-ha There exist a continuously varying analogue signal... Jul 1 2011, 06:06 AndyH-ha QUOTE Come on Andy - think that one through proper... Jul 1 2011, 20:36 DVDdoug QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jul 1 2011, 12:36)... Jul 1 2011, 22:12 2Bdecided QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 1 2011, 22:12) We... Jul 4 2011, 12:34 DVDdoug QUOTE It's the bits I don't get.OK, I... Jul 1 2011, 21:46 AndyH-ha My experience is based on CoolEdit Statistics repo... Jul 4 2011, 20:32 2Bdecided I think you may think I might be being clever than... Jul 4 2011, 23:34 AndyH-ha Perhaps I am just too ignorant of what is involved... Jul 5 2011, 08:38 2Bdecided Vinyl is an intrinsically AC-coupled format. It ha... Jul 5 2011, 14:08 pdq Think of it this way. If there is a DC offset in t... Jul 5 2011, 16:14 tinpanalley Hey all,
I've been absorbing everything you g... Jul 6 2011, 22:37 DVDdoug QUOTE - 32-bit IEEE Float?
- 32-bit PCM? Floating ... Jul 7 2011, 01:34 tinpanalley QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 6 2011, 20:34) [b]Do... Jul 7 2011, 05:06 AndyH-ha I'm curious about this inability to record in ... Jul 7 2011, 09:31 tinpanalley QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jul 7 2011, 04:31)... Jul 7 2011, 17:56 tinpanalley This is probably like asking if there is one way t... Jul 7 2011, 18:37 AndyH-ha There are many descriptions of the process publish... Jul 7 2011, 19:20 2Bdecided QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jul 7 2011, 19:20)... Jul 8 2011, 12:01 tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jul 8 2011, 07:01) The... Jul 8 2011, 15:49 DVDdoug QUOTE but is there any series of processes that ar... Jul 7 2011, 20:36 tinpanalley Here's a comparison of the 32-bit, higher gain... Jul 7 2011, 21:04 tinpanalley This sounds great to me as I'm hearing it even... Jul 7 2011, 22:16 greynol No you're not crazy, just know that 32 bits fo... Jul 7 2011, 22:34 DVDdoug QUOTE And normalising... if I get good levels on t... Jul 7 2011, 23:38 tinpanalley Couple of things:
QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 7 201... Jul 7 2011, 23:48 greynol No, they aren't contradictory at all. DVDdoug... Jul 8 2011, 00:03 tinpanalley Ok, my bad. I misunderstood. I have some people te... Jul 8 2011, 00:08 greynol QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Jul 7 2011, 16:08) I... Jul 8 2011, 00:55 DVDdoug QUOTE Then what is the difference to just doing a ... Jul 8 2011, 00:39 tinpanalley QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 7 2011, 19:39) But a... Jul 8 2011, 01:57 AndyH-ha The Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction plugin 2.0 has b... Jul 8 2011, 02:46 greynol I simply wanted to let you know that I respect tha... Jul 8 2011, 02:53 AndyH-ha I made an inquiry elsewhere. I got back that your ... Jul 8 2011, 03:04 tinpanalley Ohhh!!! Well, why didn't someone j... Jul 8 2011, 07:34 AndyH-ha Because Sound Forge has such an unusual approach (... Jul 8 2011, 08:19 tinpanalley QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jul 8 2011, 03:19)... Jul 8 2011, 15:45 tinpanalley This is the info from a download from the site (wh... Jul 8 2011, 16:08 2Bdecided Nothing automatic there, just "manual click r... Jul 8 2011, 20:30 DVDdoug QUOTE Is Audacity totally a lame program? Vinyl ca... Jul 8 2011, 20:32 AndyH-ha I 've paid no attention to Audacity for some y... Jul 8 2011, 20:36 tinpanalley QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jul 8 2011, 15:36)... Jul 8 2011, 21:09 greynol Um, no, The Beatles were recorded to tape and the ... Jul 8 2011, 21:16 tinpanalley QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 8 2011, 16:16) Um, n... Jul 8 2011, 22:46 greynol Denying that vinyl was the most common medium back... Jul 9 2011, 00:07 2Bdecided QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 8 2011, 21:16) Um, n... Jul 9 2011, 12:30 Juha Couple questions:
Would normalization be more sec... Jul 9 2011, 09:31 AndyH-ha What one gets by normalization is independent of t... Jul 9 2011, 09:40 tinpanalley If I'm going through a recording process with ... Nov 12 2011, 23:24 mjb2006 Why did you bump this thread? Your question has no... Nov 13 2011, 00:20 tinpanalley QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 12 2011, 19:20) Why ... Nov 13 2011, 05:09 botface QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Nov 12 2011, 23:24) ... Nov 13 2011, 10:24 tinpanalley QUOTE (botface @ Nov 13 2011, 05:24) by s... Nov 13 2011, 22:24 2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Nov 13 2011, 22:24) ... Nov 15 2011, 11:23 AndyH-ha It also depends on the channel balance. Some cartr... Nov 15 2011, 11:36 2Bdecided QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Nov 15 2011, 11:36... Nov 16 2011, 13:43 botface Yes, I wasn't suggesting recording in mono as ... Nov 15 2011, 17:27 |
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