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Winamp FhG AAC encoder with gapless fix, Updates from the 5.62 release |
Jul 4 2011, 18:51
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Winamp Developer Group: Developer Posts: 662 Joined: 17-July 05 From: Ashburn, VA Member No.: 23375 |
Steve from the AAC listening test topic found a bug related to gapless information in m4a files encoded with Winamp/FhG's new AAC encoder.
Updates from the 5.62 release * Fixed a bug that was preventing gapless playback information from being written to the encoded file in some circumstances * Fixed compatibility issue that was preventing HE-AAC files from being used with iTunes * Fixed a bug that was causing the ADTS encoder to fail with the default settings To install, just unzip this to your Winamp plugins folder. It should overwrite an existing file (unless you are using an older version of Winamp). This will be released with 5.63 (or 5.621 depending on what version number we decide upon)
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Jan 13 2012, 23:46
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Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 28-October 11 Member No.: 94764 |
I think I've found a new problem sample. The total ABX result is not that great, but after a reset I got a 9/10.
When you've downloaded the sample you'll notice a more or less subtle hi-hat after the kick starts. It sounded kinda off and harsh to me, which was the reason I started the test. I think there is already a difference when the kicks start, but I mainly focussed on the hi-hats that start at around 16 seconds and "respond" to the kicks. Everything was converted with the latest Winamp btw. Someone may do a re-test?
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Jan 14 2012, 14:18
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Group: Developer Posts: 618 Joined: 6-December 08 From: Erlangen Germany Member No.: 64012 |
...the hi-hats that start at around 16 seconds and "respond" to the kicks. These are quite tough for an encoder, since they are actually composed of many extremely short clicks. See spectrogram of the first of those hi-hats in the FLAC file. However, the encoder preserves them very well, except for above 16 kHz or so. I've ABXed the sample. Even if you disregard the last vote (I got tired), I'm still hovering around 20% guessing, so no significant ABX from me. CODE foo_abx 1.3.4 report foobar2000 v1.1.10 2012/01/14 13:37:16 File A: C:\Unrar\Infected Mushroom - Hush Mail (sample).flac File B: C:\Unrar\Infected Mushroom - Hush Mail (sample).m4a 13:37:16 : Test started. 13:39:17 : 01/01 50.0% 13:40:05 : 02/02 25.0% 13:41:07 : 02/03 50.0% 13:42:38 : 03/04 31.3% 13:43:43 : 04/05 18.8% 13:46:05 : 05/06 10.9% 13:47:38 : 06/07 6.3% 13:49:42 : 06/08 14.5% 13:50:07 : 06/09 25.4% 13:51:17 : 06/10 37.7% 13:53:18 : 07/11 27.4% 13:53:49 : 08/12 19.4% 13:54:44 : 08/13 29.1% 13:54:51 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 8/13 (29.1%) Chris -------------------- If I don't reply to your reply, it means I agree with you.
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Jan 14 2012, 21:42
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Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 28-October 11 Member No.: 94764 |
...the hi-hats that start at around 16 seconds and "respond" to the kicks. These are quite tough for an encoder, since they are actually composed of many extremely short clicks. See spectrogram of the first of those hi-hats in the FLAC file. However, the encoder preserves them very well, except for above 16 kHz or so. I've ABXed the sample. Even if you disregard the last vote (I got tired), I'm still hovering around 20% guessing, so no significant ABX from me. Chris Thanks for your effort, Chris! What do you think, is there any room for improvement on this issue (if you can call it like that)? |
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Jan 15 2012, 00:06
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Group: Developer Posts: 618 Joined: 6-December 08 From: Erlangen Germany Member No.: 64012 |
Thanks for your effort, Chris! What do you think, is there any room for improvement on this issue (if you can call it like that)? Other than pumping more bits into high frequencies at VBR 5, no. I'll think about it. In the meantime, would you mind listening to the attached file at normal listening level (i.e. the same volume as during casual listening to music) and tell me how many tone pulses you can hear?
hf_test44.wav ( 258.44K )
Number of downloads: 142Chris -------------------- If I don't reply to your reply, it means I agree with you.
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Jan 15 2012, 12:54
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Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 28-October 11 Member No.: 94764 |
Thanks for your effort, Chris! What do you think, is there any room for improvement on this issue (if you can call it like that)? Other than pumping more bits into high frequencies at VBR 5, no. I'll think about it. In the meantime, would you mind listening to the attached file at normal listening level (i.e. the same volume as during casual listening to music) and tell me how many tone pulses you can hear?
hf_test44.wav ( 258.44K )
Number of downloads: 142Chris The first one is pretty clear, the second one is already very quiet, and after that I hear nothing at all. I guess that's not really good, isn't it? This post has been edited by Gainless: Jan 15 2012, 12:54 |
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benski Winamp FhG AAC encoder with gapless fix Jul 4 2011, 18:51
lvqcl I noticed that this encoder produces 88.2 kHz .m4a... Jul 7 2011, 15:41
benski QUOTE (lvqcl @ Jul 7 2011, 10:41) I notic... Jul 7 2011, 17:20
lvqcl QUOTE (benski @ Jul 7 2011, 20:20) is it ... Jul 7 2011, 18:08
Alex B By chance I noticed a serious encoding artifact (I... Jul 7 2011, 23:14
lvqcl QUOTE (Alex B @ Jul 8 2011, 02:14) I trie... Jul 8 2011, 04:22
Alex B So you think that the AAC frame border position ma... Jul 8 2011, 12:46
Alex B That did the trick. I removed N*1024 samples from ... Jul 8 2011, 14:18
MrSinatra Benski,
i wish you were posting this at the winam... Jul 13 2011, 02:31
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Alex B @ Jul 8 2011, 00:14) By cha... Aug 23 2011, 11:59
Gainless QUOTE I assume you like the idea of headroom in or... Oct 28 2011, 14:49
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gainless @ Oct 28 2011, 15:49) Dep... Oct 29 2011, 20:38
b66pak @C.R.Helmrich
hi, do you plan to add adts support... Aug 23 2011, 18:45
benski QUOTE (b66pak @ Aug 23 2011, 13:45) @C.R.... Aug 23 2011, 19:37
b66pak i hope you will reconsider...(may be as a silent o... Aug 23 2011, 19:57
punkrockdude I am looking forward to a fix for the upsampling i... Oct 13 2011, 16:16
punkrockdude Are you considering higher bitrate VBR presets? I ... Oct 13 2011, 17:58
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Oct 13 2011, 18:58)... Oct 13 2011, 20:21
Alex B Am I correct to assume that the v. 03.02.03 is sti... Oct 14 2011, 09:10
benski QUOTE (Alex B @ Oct 14 2011, 04:10) Am I ... Oct 26 2011, 14:09
Anakunda Great! The only downside is I'm not using ... Oct 26 2011, 13:13
lvqcl Thanks for the info! Oct 26 2011, 15:16
b66pak @benski can you update your attachement from the f... Oct 27 2011, 17:28
IgorC Apparently new version 3.2.3 has not only bug fixe... Oct 28 2011, 14:37
b66pak can anybody help with the new .dll?
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A_Man_Eating_Duck Download the latest Winamp package. Oct 28 2011, 19:36
ZinCh I have tried to get Winamp 5.562 standard, but I h... Oct 30 2011, 11:36
lvqcl QUOTE (ZinCh @ Oct 30 2011, 14:36) I have... Oct 30 2011, 13:11
Thundik81 QUOTE (b66pak @ Oct 28 2011, 09:47) can a... Oct 30 2011, 12:49
b66pak @Thundik81 thanks a lot...
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Anakunda Just curious, any chance to use this excellent cod... Oct 30 2011, 18:38
A_Man_Eating_Duck QUOTE (Anakunda @ Oct 31 2011, 06:38) Jus... Oct 30 2011, 20:02
Gainless QUOTE (A_Man_Eating_Duck @ Oct 30 2011, 20... Oct 30 2011, 23:15
mudlord easy, someone can reverse engineer it, though frau... Oct 30 2011, 19:50
Anakunda Thanks so much. Oct 30 2011, 20:08
A_Man_Eating_Duck why yes it does work with foobar Oct 31 2011, 03:20
A_Man_Eating_Duck since i can't edit my previous post
CODE--vbr... Oct 31 2011, 06:00
botface QUOTE (A_Man_Eating_Duck @ Oct 31 2011, 06... Oct 31 2011, 21:14
A_Man_Eating_Duck QUOTE (botface @ Nov 1 2011, 09:14) QUOTE... Nov 1 2011, 05:12
nu774 Hi,
I found channel mapping is incorrect for 4ch c... Oct 31 2011, 12:05
benski QUOTE (nu774 @ Oct 31 2011, 07:05) Hi,
I ... Oct 31 2011, 23:18
nu774 QUOTE (benski @ Nov 1 2011, 07:18) It... Nov 1 2011, 01:40
Gainless I've done a little ABX test with a trance trac... Nov 3 2011, 14:55
C.R.Helmrich Thanks a lot for testing, Gainless! Unfortunat... Nov 4 2011, 14:17
Gainless QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 4 2011, 14:17) ... Nov 11 2011, 16:59
Destroid For those who like numbers, I have quick dirty tes... Nov 7 2011, 23:27
b66pak @C.R.Helmrich do you have any plans for increasing... Nov 9 2011, 19:48
Destroid QUOTE (b66pak @ Nov 9 2011, 18:48) i can ... Nov 15 2011, 11:58
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Destroid @ Nov 15 2011, 12:58) @C.... Nov 15 2011, 23:12
no404error QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 16 2011, 01:12)... Nov 16 2011, 05:52
Destroid QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 15 2011, 22:12)... Nov 17 2011, 00:28
IgorC If You don't listen the artifacts then it can ... Nov 11 2011, 20:00
Gainless QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 11 2011, 20:00) If You... Nov 11 2011, 21:00
IgorC Foobar's ABX logs don't provide the inform... Nov 12 2011, 04:19
Gainless QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 12 2011, 04:19) Foobar... Nov 13 2011, 21:52
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gainless @ Nov 13 2011, 22:52) Wil... Nov 14 2011, 14:42
Gainless Btw, how much listenings do I need in an ABX test ... Nov 15 2011, 17:14
IgorC no404error
Nice results.
Just some observations.... Nov 16 2011, 21:39
C.R.Helmrich Thanks a lot, 404!
QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 1... Nov 16 2011, 21:48

IgorC QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 16 2011, 17:48)... Nov 16 2011, 21:52
no404error QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 16 2011, 23:39) no404e... Nov 16 2011, 22:42
IgorC QUOTE (no404error @ Nov 16 2011, 18:42) B... Nov 17 2011, 01:01
no404error QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 17 2011, 03:01) Winner... Nov 17 2011, 01:26
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (no404error @ Nov 17 2011, 02:26) F... Nov 17 2011, 21:34
Gainless QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 17 2011, 21:34)... Nov 17 2011, 22:30

C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gainless @ Nov 17 2011, 23:30) Can... Nov 17 2011, 22:47
Destroid QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 17 2011, 20:34)... Nov 18 2011, 01:09

C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Destroid @ Nov 18 2011, 02:09) I h... Nov 18 2011, 21:03
IgorC QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Nov 17 2011, 17:34)... Nov 18 2011, 03:44
lvqcl On the other hand, Winamp Format Converter is stil... Nov 18 2011, 21:22
IgorC There is a new version of Winamp with updated FhG ... Dec 11 2011, 19:11
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 11 2011, 20:11) Last v... Dec 11 2011, 22:47
IgorC QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Dec 11 2011, 18:47)... Dec 12 2011, 14:38
b66pak QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 11 2011, 21:11) There ... Dec 11 2011, 20:53
lvqcl http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=332010... Dec 11 2011, 21:02
b66pak thanks a lot...
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nu774 I'm not a good, trained listener like the guys... Dec 12 2011, 06:56
nu774
Uploaded a sample to show the effect I wrote in t... Dec 12 2011, 07:20
darkbyte Maybe it's not the appropriate topic, but can ... Dec 12 2011, 21:08
darkbyte Looks like i've killed this topic aswell. Dec 13 2011, 20:07
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (darkbyte @ Dec 13 2011, 21:07) Loo... Dec 13 2011, 22:53
darkbyte QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Dec 13 2011, 23:53)... Dec 14 2011, 20:05
Gainless QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Dec 13 2011, 22:53)... Dec 14 2011, 21:47
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 14 2011, 22:47) Is ... Dec 15 2011, 09:15
hernaaan Is there a way to encode using FhG AAC codec out o... Dec 15 2011, 21:36
mudlord QUOTE (hernaaan @ Dec 15 2011, 14:36) Is ... Dec 18 2011, 04:00
ZinCh yes Dec 15 2011, 21:42
lvqcl QUOTE (hernaaan @ Dec 16 2011, 00:36) I m... Dec 15 2011, 21:56
hernaaan QUOTE (lvqcl @ Dec 15 2011, 17:56) EULA:
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ZinCh so, if you follow terms - you cannot use this code... Dec 15 2011, 22:12
Brand Is it necessary to use the --ignorelength command ... Dec 15 2011, 23:36
kode54 It is a good idea, since foobar2000 outputs UINT_M... Dec 16 2011, 02:08
Brand Thanks.
One thing I noticed is that when convertin... Dec 16 2011, 12:09
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gainless @ Jan 15 2012, 13:54) The... Jan 15 2012, 13:49
Gainless Edit:
Forgot to mention it, the sample is encoded ... Jan 14 2012, 12:08![]() ![]() |
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