Public AAC Listening Test @ ~96 kbps [July 2011]: Results, Results and post-test discussion |
Public AAC Listening Test @ ~96 kbps [July 2011]: Results, Results and post-test discussion |
Aug 23 2011, 19:56
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After the long time of preparations, discussions and realization of the test the results are finally here.
http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/i...-a/results.html Summary: Apple won, FhG is the second, Coding Technologies is the third and Nero is the last I appreciate all people who has supported the test and participated in it. This post has been edited by IgorC: Aug 23 2011, 20:12 |
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Aug 26 2011, 10:28
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Thank you IgorC and Garf for answering my questions!
In the output of bootstrap, is there any semantic difference between "a is better than b" and "b is worse than a"? During the test I had the feeling that one (regular) sample was often worse and one often a tad better. Only the former assumption seems to be backed by my data (using the adjusted p-values): ffmpeg < Nero < All other Given the high level of quality, I'm surprised that such a strong ranking could be established. I would have expected more ties. |
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Aug 26 2011, 11:20
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Given the high level of quality, I'm surprised that such a strong ranking could be established. I would have expected more ties. That's actually how bootstraps works. While it's the same for chunky if one particular sample has 1 or 100 results. It will throw away all particular data and will work only with average score per samples (only 20 average scores. Because there were 20 samples) Bootstrap in change performs analysis on whole set of data (280 results for this test.) That permits to get more important statistical differences. Literally every single result is useful. This post has been edited by IgorC: Aug 26 2011, 11:35 |
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IgorC Public AAC Listening Test @ ~96 kbps [July 2011]: Results Aug 23 2011, 19:56
benski It would be interesting to do a rank-sum analysis ... Aug 23 2011, 20:18
Garf QUOTE (benski @ Aug 23 2011, 21:18) It wo... Aug 23 2011, 20:27

benski QUOTE (Garf @ Aug 23 2011, 15:27) QUOTE (... Aug 23 2011, 20:54

Garf QUOTE (benski @ Aug 23 2011, 21:54) The F... Aug 23 2011, 21:11
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (benski @ Aug 23 2011, 21:18) ... w... Aug 23 2011, 20:42

Garf QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Aug 23 2011, 21:42)... Aug 23 2011, 20:47


lvqcl QUOTE (Garf @ Aug 23 2011, 23:47) Basical... Aug 27 2011, 20:22


no404error QUOTE (lvqcl @ Aug 27 2011, 22:22) CVBR, ... Sep 4 2011, 04:01

benski QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Aug 23 2011, 15:42)... Aug 23 2011, 20:52
IgorC QUOTE (benski @ Aug 23 2011, 16:18) It wo... Aug 23 2011, 21:01
benski QUOTE (IgorC @ Aug 23 2011, 16:01) QUOTE ... Aug 23 2011, 21:07
IgorC QUOTE (benski @ Aug 23 2011, 17:07) Actua... Aug 23 2011, 21:11
IgorC I should also mention that I've participated i... Aug 23 2011, 21:30
zima Maybe there could be a legend for X-axis, the abbr... Aug 23 2011, 21:37
lvqcl It is interesting that QT tvbr and cvbr encoded fi... Aug 23 2011, 22:05
IgorC zima,
will fix it later.
QUOTE (lvqcl @ Au... Aug 23 2011, 22:11
Alexxander Thanks to all who participated in this test and to... Aug 23 2011, 22:31
Garf QUOTE (Alexxander @ Aug 23 2011, 23:31) I... Aug 23 2011, 23:02
Dakeryas Many thanks for the test !
Interesting to not... Aug 23 2011, 23:11
IgorC I've noticed that previous version of Nero 1.0... Aug 23 2011, 23:51
Gornot To be perfectly honest, I am surprised that FhG di... Aug 24 2011, 00:29
/mnt Interesting results, I gotta see if the pre-echo h... Aug 24 2011, 01:23
kennedyb4 If it is fair to say that many of the samples were... Aug 24 2011, 01:42
Sebastian Mares It appears to me that the low anchor was way too b... Aug 24 2011, 07:29
Garf QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Aug 24 2011, 08... Aug 24 2011, 09:35
Nezmer QUOTE (Garf @ Aug 24 2011, 10:35) Probabl... Aug 24 2011, 11:35
Garf QUOTE (Nezmer @ Aug 24 2011, 12:35) QUOTE... Aug 24 2011, 12:46
Nezmer QUOTE (Garf @ Aug 24 2011, 13:46) QUOTE (... Aug 24 2011, 18:26
greynol I was wondering the same thing. Aug 24 2011, 07:49
C.R.Helmrich Some bit-rate statistics which were presented in p... Aug 24 2011, 18:27
Garf QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Aug 24 2011, 19:27)... Aug 25 2011, 07:29
Zarggg Just looking for a quick verification on whether I... Aug 25 2011, 18:06
IgorC QUOTE (Zarggg @ Aug 25 2011, 14:06) Am I ... Aug 25 2011, 18:28
greynol CVBR and TVBR are statistically tied. One did not... Aug 25 2011, 18:12
Zarggg QUOTE (greynol @ Aug 25 2011, 13:12) CVBR... Aug 25 2011, 22:47
Garf QUOTE (greynol @ Aug 25 2011, 19:12) CVBR... Aug 26 2011, 07:20
greynol That assumes facts not in evidence. Aug 25 2011, 19:04
Gecko First, thank you IgorC and everyone involved!
... Aug 25 2011, 20:24
IgorC QUOTE (Gecko @ Aug 25 2011, 16:24) First,... Aug 26 2011, 03:30

mjb2006 QUOTE (IgorC @ Aug 25 2011, 20:30) I do n... Aug 26 2011, 05:18

IgorC QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:18) Anyw... Aug 26 2011, 05:24
Garf QUOTE (Gecko @ Aug 25 2011, 21:24) a) Do ... Aug 26 2011, 07:16
IgorC QUOTE (Garf @ Aug 26 2011, 03:16) Always ... Aug 26 2011, 08:51
mjb2006 Even though I sent in results, they didn't get... Aug 25 2011, 22:50

Garf QUOTE (IgorC @ Aug 26 2011, 12:20) QUOTE ... Aug 27 2011, 17:48
Garf QUOTE (Gecko @ Aug 26 2011, 11:28) In the... Aug 27 2011, 17:39
IgorC I found the first and the last graphs to be partic... Aug 27 2011, 21:46
lvqcl QUOTE (IgorC @ Aug 28 2011, 00:46) I thin... Aug 27 2011, 22:20
IgorC Yeah Aug 27 2011, 22:39
IgorC BTW if someone want to organize the next public te... Oct 1 2011, 20:21
jukkap How about 48kbps HE AAC ? Or low bitrate multiform... Oct 1 2011, 20:49
IgorC QUOTE (jukkap @ Oct 1 2011, 16:49) How ab... Oct 10 2011, 23:17
jukkap QUOTE (IgorC @ Oct 10 2011, 23:17) The la... Oct 20 2011, 10:04
IgorC Well, the last time we have tested LC-AAC encoders... Oct 1 2011, 21:58
jukkap QUOTE (IgorC @ Oct 1 2011, 22:58) Can You... Oct 2 2011, 05:10
IgorC Late but still here.
Some participants have answ... Oct 23 2011, 07:14![]() ![]() |
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