Sampling/Time Resolution - In search of sources |
Sampling/Time Resolution - In search of sources |
Oct 4 2011, 21:36
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Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 4-October 11 From: VA Beach, VA Member No.: 94145 |
Greetings all,
I've been lurking on these forums for about the last year, and I finally signed up today to pick the brains of some of the more knowledgeable individuals here. On Saturday, I'm giving an 8 minute informative speech on the essential elements of digital audio (PCM to be exact, leaving DSD out given the time limit), why it was a logical progression from analog recording and storage technology, and a brief sketch of lossy/lossless implementations of it. My primary objective at this point is to get a rock solid source, stating that (and why) any sampling rate is able to capture a given bandlimited source with perfect time resolution (ignoring frequency response and filtering in this case, dealing only with time). I was encouraged to touch upon this point in particular because of a presentation I found on YouTube a few months back, whose essential message was "Digital is bad because you hear the music as packets rather than as an analog waveform" and was advocating that everyone dispense with their digital media and go get a turntable and vinyls. My intent is to disprove the "packets" notion, and this source is the closest I have seen to doing that as of now: http://www.tonmeister.ca/main/textbook/node639.html If anyone could supply further documentation (or their own findings/conclusions on the matter), that would be most appreciated. Thanks! |
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Oct 6 2011, 01:22
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Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 18-December 03 Member No.: 10538 |
If you want to see the sorts of trainwrecks that happen when 'audiophiles' try to wrap their heads around this (and the valiant HA member we know as Axon tries to
educate them), see this: http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=85436 and concurrently, an HA thread on the topic, from the same era...with some of the same players (including the guy who thinks he's improved on Shannon/Nyquist)..plus Woodinville: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=49043 This post has been edited by krabapple: Oct 6 2011, 01:45 |
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Oct 6 2011, 12:42
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![]() ReplayGain developer Group: Developer Posts: 4586 Joined: 5-November 01 From: Yorkshire, UK Member No.: 409 |
If you want to see the sorts of trainwrecks that happen when 'audiophiles' try to wrap their heads around this (and the valiant HA member we know as Axon tries to Yeah, thanks for reminding me about that thread!
educate them), see this: http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=85436 and concurrently, an HA thread on the topic, from the same era...with some of the same players (including the guy who thinks he's improved on Shannon/Nyquist)..plus Woodinville: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=49043 |
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FreaqyFrequency Sampling/Time Resolution - In search of sources Oct 4 2011, 21:36
saratoga QUOTE (FreaqyFrequency @ Oct 4 2011, 16:3... Oct 4 2011, 21:40
benski http://www.dspguide.com/ch3/3.htm
Another good to... Oct 4 2011, 21:41
FreaqyFrequency Wow, you guys are quick on the draw! Thorough... Oct 4 2011, 21:56
C.R.Helmrich Was about to post the link that benski already pos... Oct 4 2011, 22:19
xnor Some introductory wiki pages:
Sampling
Nyquist-Sha... Oct 4 2011, 22:42
Speedskater You might look through member "woodinville... Oct 4 2011, 23:21
knutinh It is called Shannon-Nyquist sampling theoreme, an... Oct 5 2011, 01:44
Axon All I can suggest is to read this section from the... Oct 5 2011, 02:23
FreaqyFrequency Again, many thanks for all the replies, extremely ... Oct 5 2011, 03:14
dhromed QUOTE (FreaqyFrequency @ Oct 5 2011, 04:1... Oct 5 2011, 09:25
db1989 I, too, like that analogy—and dhromed’s!
Thi... Oct 5 2011, 19:54
drewfx The critical piece of information to stress to ... Oct 5 2011, 17:38
benski QUOTE (drewfx @ Oct 5 2011, 12:38) The cr... Oct 5 2011, 18:02
dhromed QUOTE (drewfx @ Oct 5 2011, 18:38) When t... Oct 6 2011, 10:03
FreaqyFrequency That is a great analogy, and analogies will be a s... Oct 5 2011, 19:02
DVDdoug QUOTE When the digital signal is converted back to... Oct 6 2011, 00:03
Woodinville The time resolution of a PROPERLY reconstructed PC... Oct 8 2011, 03:12
Woodinville QUOTE (Woodinville @ Oct 7 2011, 19:12) T... Oct 9 2011, 00:04
Northpack QUOTE (Woodinville @ Oct 8 2011, 03:12) T... Oct 9 2011, 11:28
Woodinville QUOTE (Northpack @ Oct 9 2011, 03:28) Tha... Oct 9 2011, 11:45
FreaqyFrequency Thank you very much JJ, I've been following yo... Oct 8 2011, 17:33
FreaqyFrequency So I was flipping through some of my documents as ... Feb 12 2012, 23:47
MichaelW As the thread has been resurrected, and as the mis... Feb 13 2012, 01:48
2Bdecided QUOTE (MichaelW @ Feb 13 2012, 00:48) two... Feb 13 2012, 16:12
knutinh QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 13 2012, 17:12) On... Feb 13 2012, 22:21
MichaelW QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 14 2012, 04:12) Pr... Feb 13 2012, 23:02![]() ![]() |
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