"Music Sounds Better on Vinyl", I am so tired of this argument being brought up by the layperson |
"Music Sounds Better on Vinyl", I am so tired of this argument being brought up by the layperson |
Oct 13 2011, 17:56
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mona-elyafi/..._b_1008876.html
Ugh. Of special note is the 5th paragraph where she basically shoots herself in the foot: "Now I don't pretend to be a tech whiz by any means and I am sure I know absolutely nothing about how it all works and why, but the one thing I know for certain though is that music sounds better on vinyl." If they approve my comment, it should be the first one. |
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Feb 9 2012, 18:30
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Vinyl sounds superior by design.
First step is to EQ the bass of. Than you cut a groove in a plastic master Then you make a metal copy of this master This metal copy is pressed into vinyl At playback the lack of bass is compensated by EQ A copy of a copy with EQ applied two times. Combine this with a silent groove producing 30 dB noise on its own. Small wonder digital can’t beat this. -------------------- TheWellTemperedComputer.com
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Feb 10 2012, 04:03
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Vinyl sounds superior by design. First step is to EQ the bass of. Than you cut a groove in a plastic master Then you make a metal copy of this master This metal copy is pressed into vinyl At playback the lack of bass is compensated by EQ A copy of a copy with EQ applied two times. Combine this with a silent groove producing 30 dB noise on its own. Small wonder digital can’t beat this. I couldn't point out some of the many defects of vinyl any better. Paul This post has been edited by Paulhoff: Feb 10 2012, 04:05 -------------------- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein
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ozmosis82 "Music Sounds Better on Vinyl" Oct 13 2011, 17:56
dhromed I don't mind vinyl lovers liking the physical ... Oct 13 2011, 18:32
Canar It's an opinion piece, nothing more. Music sou... Oct 13 2011, 20:00
C.R.Helmrich Indeed. An opinion of a person who grew up with vi... Oct 13 2011, 20:12
DVDdoug How did on opinion piece leak onto The Huffington ... Oct 13 2011, 20:23
Brand I think your rant is a bit out of place here. It... Oct 13 2011, 21:29
tawd As she admits she is not aware of the technical as... Oct 13 2011, 23:27
Cavaille QUOTE And I'm not just talking about the way i... Oct 14 2011, 01:28
polemon I believe, that what she's referring to, is th... Oct 14 2011, 02:08
musicollector QUOTE (polemon @ Oct 13 2011, 19:08) I be... Oct 27 2011, 02:39
MichaelW QUOTE (musicollector @ Oct 27 2011, 13:39... Oct 27 2011, 22:59
Goratrix QUOTE (MichaelW @ Oct 27 2011, 23:59) But... Oct 28 2011, 10:16

PoisonDan That's actually quite cool. Not really useful,... Oct 28 2011, 11:38

MichaelW QUOTE (Goratrix @ Oct 28 2011, 21:16) Som... Oct 28 2011, 21:51
musicollector QUOTE (MichaelW @ Oct 27 2011, 15:59) QUO... Oct 28 2011, 18:34
musicollector QUOTE (MichaelW @ Oct 27 2011, 15:59) QUO... Oct 29 2011, 04:14
Woodinville It would be nice if the author didn't deify he... Oct 14 2011, 02:15
testyou She's just an older person with nostalgia for ... Oct 14 2011, 03:16
andy o Sheesh, if that's your beef with the FluffPo, ... Oct 14 2011, 04:34
IgorC Vinyl was my first experience with music when I wa... Oct 14 2011, 04:51
hellokeith How much work has been done on vinyl simulation?
... Oct 14 2011, 06:33
FreaqyFrequency http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/
If y... Oct 14 2011, 07:00
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (FreaqyFrequency @ Oct 13 2011, 22... Oct 14 2011, 19:04
polemon This might me slightly off-topic, but I'm wond... Oct 14 2011, 10:58
mixminus1 QUOTE (polemon @ Oct 14 2011, 02:58) This... Oct 14 2011, 17:25
polemon QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Oct 14 2011, 18:25) It... Oct 15 2011, 01:24
dhromed Assuming the cutting process is flawless, you can ... Oct 14 2011, 11:07
FreaqyFrequency http://soundcloud.com/theastralobservatory...-gain... Oct 14 2011, 18:42
db1989 Surely, if they were really good, they could make ... Oct 27 2011, 23:18
kraut Most newly released LPs contain a link for a digit... Oct 28 2011, 02:03
Juha What 'bout sound of DBX 'coded' vinyls... Oct 28 2011, 14:28
Remedial Sound Here's another golden nugget from a reviewer a... Oct 28 2011, 17:20
DVDdoug QUOTE What 'bout sound of DBX 'coded' ... Oct 28 2011, 17:50
musicollector QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 28 2011, 10:50) QUOT... Oct 29 2011, 04:10
Raptus It is a matter of aesthetics and not (how laymen o... Oct 28 2011, 19:37
db1989 QUOTE The only question then is, why bother to cut... Oct 28 2011, 22:03
d_headshot New music on both vinyl and digital sounds terribl... Oct 29 2011, 01:06
Brod QUOTE (d_headshot @ Oct 29 2011, 08:06) N... Feb 9 2012, 05:08
greynol QUOTE (Brod @ Feb 8 2012, 20:08) Hell, ev... Feb 9 2012, 06:24
Brod QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 9 2012, 13:24) ...in... Feb 9 2012, 17:38
skamp QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 9 2012, 06:24) QUOTE... Feb 10 2012, 15:19
ron spencer doesn't this depend on the mastering? Everybo... Oct 29 2011, 16:06
musicollector QUOTE (ron spencer @ Oct 29 2011, 09:06) ... Oct 29 2011, 21:52
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE Something like This? smile.gif
That's J... Oct 29 2011, 21:26
smpltn It's all about the mastering at the time vinyl... Oct 29 2011, 22:37
mixminus1 It all depends on the choices made by the artists/... Oct 30 2011, 07:11
ron spencer That's the rub then...one needs to know how th... Oct 30 2011, 15:38
pdq They probably think that people who buy vinyl are ... Oct 31 2011, 01:44
liffy99 It's not the medium, it's the actual recor... Oct 31 2011, 10:05
pdq Actually the loudness button did something quite d... Oct 31 2011, 14:34
liffy99 QUOTE (pdq @ Oct 31 2011, 13:34) Actually... Oct 31 2011, 19:29
pdq QUOTE (liffy99 @ Oct 31 2011, 14:29) Well... Oct 31 2011, 19:56
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (liffy99 @ Oct 31 2011, 14:29) QUOT... Oct 31 2011, 20:56
Wombat How i was happy the first day i played a CD at hom... Oct 31 2011, 14:55
4sure When CDs first arrived, people often complaint abo... Nov 1 2011, 05:36
kraut QUOTE people often complaint about their harsh sou... Nov 1 2011, 06:51
mixminus1 Yes - for the past 25 years or so, the "audio... Nov 1 2011, 14:28
Brod The defects of vinyl are irrelevant if only the CD... Feb 10 2012, 08:44
Canar QUOTE (Brod @ Feb 9 2012, 23:44) The defe... Feb 10 2012, 08:55
Paulhoff QUOTE (Brod @ Feb 10 2012, 03:44) The def... Feb 10 2012, 15:04
Bartholomew MacGruber I've heard various arguments about vinyl being... Feb 10 2012, 15:33
julf QUOTE (Bartholomew MacGruber @ Feb 10 2012, 1... Feb 10 2012, 16:41
andy o QUOTE (julf @ Feb 10 2012, 07:41) QUOTE (... Feb 11 2012, 17:39
julf Why do you think it is misguided? Of course, you c... Feb 11 2012, 18:37
pdq If you don't change the volume setting while y... Feb 10 2012, 16:03
Paulhoff QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 10 2012, 11:03) If you d... Feb 10 2012, 16:30
Paulhoff With using dither, the dynamic range can be increa... Feb 10 2012, 17:02
k00zk0 A lot of people definitely like noise, and I'd... Feb 11 2012, 14:02
dumdidum QUOTE (k00zk0 @ Feb 11 2012, 14:02) For a... Feb 11 2012, 14:15
pdq I'm not sure that I would call it misguided ei... Feb 11 2012, 20:49
julf QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 11 2012, 20:49) When the... Feb 11 2012, 21:37
greynol The question was about dynamic resolution. Maybe ... Feb 11 2012, 21:40
julf QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 11 2012, 21:40) The ... Feb 11 2012, 22:02
krabapple QUOTE (julf @ Feb 11 2012, 16:02) QUOTE (... Feb 11 2012, 22:40
julf QUOTE (krabapple @ Feb 11 2012, 22:40) La... Feb 11 2012, 22:44
krabapple QUOTE (julf @ Feb 11 2012, 16:44) QUOTE (... Feb 11 2012, 22:58
andy o What I think he meant is that if there's any w... Feb 11 2012, 21:48
andy o I have a feeling for what he's trying to ask, ... Feb 11 2012, 22:18
krabapple And I think one non-highly-technical version of t... Feb 11 2012, 22:56
Bartholomew MacGruber QUOTE (krabapple @ Feb 11 2012, 22:56) An... Feb 13 2012, 16:24
bred QUOTE (Roseval @ Feb 9 2012, 18:30) Vinyl... Feb 12 2012, 12:22
pdq QUOTE (bred @ Feb 12 2012, 07:22) We don... Feb 12 2012, 14:14

Paulhoff QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 12 2012, 09:14) QUOTE (b... Feb 12 2012, 15:03
kraut QUOTE Ok your have right.
From the point view of a... Feb 12 2012, 20:00
lvqcl QUOTE But consider that our brain prefer the middl... Feb 12 2012, 13:40
LithosZA QUOTE ...Oh noes, this:
Off topic:
That preset i... Feb 12 2012, 14:20
kennedyb4 QUOTE (LithosZA @ Feb 12 2012, 08:20) QUO... Feb 12 2012, 14:30
Antigen This is the same war that actually is made by CD v... Feb 12 2012, 20:41
pdq If the human ear had been better than 16 bits of d... Feb 13 2012, 16:47
MichaelW QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 14 2012, 04:47) If the h... Feb 14 2012, 04:23
Gretschguy I think I'm in the minority on this thread.
I... Feb 14 2012, 06:50
cliveb QUOTE (Gretschguy @ Feb 14 2012, 05:50) I... Feb 14 2012, 10:03
kraut QUOTE The frequency range of LPs that I rip is far... Feb 14 2012, 07:48
knutinh QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 14 2012, 08:48) That i... Feb 14 2012, 09:01
Porcus QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 14 2012, 07:48) QUOTE ... Feb 14 2012, 09:07
knutinh QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 14 2012, 10:07) Remem... Feb 14 2012, 09:15
Porcus QUOTE (knutinh @ Feb 14 2012, 09:15) I wa... Feb 14 2012, 09:26
Woodinville It is remarkably hard to run such a test, accurate... Feb 14 2012, 11:01![]() ![]() |
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