What's the point of higher sampling rates in audio?, Such as 96 and 192kHz. |
What's the point of higher sampling rates in audio?, Such as 96 and 192kHz. |
Oct 16 2011, 18:03
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Could someone explain to me why there are some recordings with sample rates as high as 192kHz? If most of us hear up to 20kHz, wouldn't 44.1kHz or even 48kHz be enough? Or is there other practical aspects besides boosting maximum frequency in higher sampling rates I am not aware of?
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Oct 18 2011, 13:34
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Guys, you all disappoint me. The point of higher sampling rates is capturing at best quality possible, regardless if the quality improvement to 16/44.1 is only theoretical. The point is: you can always dowsample later. Really, all your shiny, biting and ironic arguments would have made sense ten years ago but in present times itīs completely superfluous: nowadays we have plenty of HDD space, more than capable hardware, fast processing (even 32/384.000 can be edited and processed very fast if I may be allowed to indulge in that exaggeration fantasy) and extremely fast internet connections. It just doesnīt make sense to use 16/44.1 or lossy compression nowadays and even less sense to promote it as the only format worthwile.
Did it occur to you that for example the Grammy foundation and the Deutsche Grammophon are doing backups of their precious analogue tapes with 24/192 before the tapes degrade and are lost? They are doing this because for example the IASA recommends it. They also donīt care if the quality is better or not, they just want to capture everything. They apparently do it according to the motto 'Better safe than sorry'. Are you calling them stupid or deluded? They obviously know the times they are in and behave accordingly, they exploit the technical possibilities they have and donīt stand still. Which is what has been missing here since a few years now. You guys are still doing comparisons of lossy formats at 96 kBit/s! Why? The world wonīt need them for much longer. Furthermore, you make fun of people who donīt share your opinion. Granted, some of them deserve it. But for a few years now everyone who promotes something like higher samplerates, 24 bit, hell, anything else that deviates from established norms is treated like a little dumb child. You have become close minded people, living in their own secluded world that is becoming smaller and smaller every day. This forum clearly has lost its edge, I really feel that the world has turned - but without you. I will no longer participate here (youīll applaud it, Iīm sure) and I know that sentences will be put out of context. If there would be a delete-button for my profile Iīd use it. -------------------- http://marlene-d.blogspot.com/
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Oct 18 2011, 17:41
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Guys, you all disappoint me. The point of higher sampling rates is capturing at best quality possible, regardless if the quality improvement to 16/44.1 is only theoretical. The point is: you can always dowsample later. And you can always up-sample later, so who cares? |
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stranhoROX What's the point of higher sampling rates in audio? Oct 16 2011, 18:03
C.R.Helmrich Good question! My answer: People record with 9... Oct 16 2011, 18:18
punkrockdude QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Oct 16 2011, 19:18)... Oct 18 2011, 21:13
Brand Yeah, this has been discussed a lot on HA.
But in... Oct 16 2011, 18:29
saratoga QUOTE (Brand @ Oct 16 2011, 13:29) Howeve... Oct 16 2011, 21:32
benski There are some advantages to recording, mixing and... Oct 16 2011, 20:38
Canar Trivial case where higher-sampling rates can becom... Oct 16 2011, 21:50
Notat +1 to saratoga
Canar's scenario is applicable... Oct 16 2011, 22:48
krabapple QUOTE (Notat @ Oct 16 2011, 17:48) There ... Oct 17 2011, 03:57
Juha Still there are plenty of audiointerfaces which wo... Oct 17 2011, 04:14
2Bdecided @benski,
...but if you're simply relying on t... Oct 17 2011, 10:07
benski QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 17 2011, 05:07) @b... Oct 17 2011, 11:47
Northpack QUOTE (benski @ Oct 17 2011, 10:47) And i... Oct 17 2011, 16:34

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Woodinville QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 18 2011, 06:46) 1)... Oct 19 2011, 07:45

krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 18 2011, 06:26) Th... Oct 18 2011, 23:10

2Bdecided QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 18 2011, 23:10) QU... Oct 19 2011, 10:50
dhromed QUOTE (benski @ Oct 17 2011, 12:47) And i... Oct 17 2011, 17:05
knutinh QUOTE (benski @ Oct 17 2011, 12:47) I... Oct 17 2011, 18:34
Dirk95100 QUOTE (knutinh @ Oct 17 2011, 19:34) QUOT... Oct 18 2011, 05:06
Wombat QUOTE (dhromed @ Oct 17 2011, 18:05) QUOT... Oct 17 2011, 18:45
HTS Do microphones have to be good enough to take adva... Oct 18 2011, 03:45
saratoga QUOTE (HTS @ Oct 17 2011, 22:45) Otherwis... Oct 18 2011, 03:47
FreaqyFrequency There are, in fact, at least two omni capsules out... Oct 18 2011, 04:12
hellokeith Seems like a worthwhile experiment would be to run... Oct 18 2011, 07:14
unekdoud QUOTE (stranhoROX @ Oct 17 2011, 01:03) C... Oct 18 2011, 08:01
2Bdecided QUOTE (Cavaille @ Oct 18 2011, 13:34) Guy... Oct 18 2011, 14:55
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Cavaille @ Oct 18 2011, 14:34) It ... Oct 18 2011, 22:42

hellokeith QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Oct 18 2011, 16:42)... Oct 19 2011, 05:30

C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (hellokeith @ Oct 19 2011, 06:30) Q... Oct 19 2011, 15:50
krabapple QUOTE (Cavaille @ Oct 18 2011, 08:34) Guy... Oct 18 2011, 23:26
Slipstreem QUOTE (Cavaille @ Oct 18 2011, 12:34) Thi... Nov 8 2011, 02:01
Wombat I love the steps forward high resolution movies co... Oct 18 2011, 19:48
[JAZ] And are you 100% sure that the plugin is samplerat... Oct 18 2011, 22:09
punkrockdude QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Oct 18 2011, 23:09... Nov 1 2011, 16:55
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Oct 18 2011, 17:09... Nov 1 2011, 21:44
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benski QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 2 2011, 07:32) A s... Nov 2 2011, 15:40
HTS QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Nov 1 2011, 15... Mar 20 2012, 03:35
Woodinville QUOTE (HTS @ Mar 19 2012, 19:35) Aren... Apr 7 2012, 05:41
knutinh QUOTE (Woodinville @ Apr 7 2012, 06:41) H... Apr 9 2012, 12:20
Juha I bet most of these 16/44.1 fanatics rips/ripped t... Oct 19 2011, 04:33
krabapple QUOTE (Juha @ Oct 18 2011, 23:33) I bet m... Nov 15 2011, 17:29
mjb2006 QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 15 2011, 10:29) [2... Nov 15 2011, 22:12
krabapple QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 15 2011, 17:12) QUOT... Nov 15 2011, 22:45
greynol It has little to do with editing. People record a... Oct 19 2011, 16:34
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 19 2011, 11:34) It h... Nov 1 2011, 15:08
greynol That's great, Arny, though I don't know th... Nov 1 2011, 16:48
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 1 2011, 11:48) That... Nov 1 2011, 21:27
greynol QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Nov 1 2011, 13... Nov 1 2011, 22:16
2Bdecided Yes, I agree. Sorry, that's what I was implyin... Nov 2 2011, 16:18
astroidmist I don't know if this has been posted or addres... Nov 7 2011, 07:00
Roseval Nyquist in reverse
One should sample at the doubl... Nov 8 2011, 00:01
Wombat QUOTE (Roseval @ Nov 8 2011, 01:01) One s... Nov 8 2011, 02:14
pappaapa Question:
Shouldn't the rest of the worlds ac... Nov 8 2011, 15:38
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pappaapa QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 8 2011, 18:00) Any... Nov 9 2011, 00:10

Soap QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 19:10) But ... Nov 9 2011, 00:48

2Bdecided QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 9 2011, 00:10) But ... Nov 16 2011, 13:38
krabapple QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 10:38) Ques... Nov 8 2011, 18:04
Wombat QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 16:38) Ques... Nov 8 2011, 15:55
Wombat QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 8 2011, 19:00) Far... Nov 8 2011, 19:31
pappaapa First: Thanks for your replies!
And just to t... Nov 8 2011, 21:20
drewfx QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 15:20) Firs... Nov 8 2011, 22:42

pappaapa QUOTE (drewfx @ Nov 8 2011, 22:42) My und... Nov 8 2011, 23:50

drewfx QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 17:50) QUOT... Nov 9 2011, 03:58
Soap QUOTE (pappaapa @ Nov 8 2011, 16:20) So u... Nov 8 2011, 23:24
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