dBpower LAME 320 CBR - "fast" encode fewer artifacts - why? |
dBpower LAME 320 CBR - "fast" encode fewer artifacts - why? |
Nov 22 2011, 05:10
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I'm not sure if this is in the proper forum, although I did do ABX listening tests, which I'll post below. But all the first one shows it that two different 320kb LAME encodes were ABX-able.
At any rate, I can't figure something out: While comparing 320kb LAME encodes of the popular killer sample "Show Me Your Spine," encoded using dBpoweramp, I found that the well-known "sandpaper scratching" artifact that is prominent in the first few seconds of the song was much more noticeable when I selected "Slow (High Quality)" than when I selected "Fast (Low Quality)." To my ears, the "Fast (Low Quality)" setting produced a result much closer to transparency (though definitely NOT transparent), while with the "Slow (High Quality)" setting the artifacts were VERY obvious. I can't prove this other than to post the results of comparing those two compressed samples, where I scored 12/12 in differentiating them. There was a faint "cripsy" artifact at a particular point in the "slow" encode that was not present in the "fast" encode, and I'm also hearing that "scratching" sound more prominently in the Slow encode. Again, I scored 12/12: foo_abx 1.3.4 report foobar2000 v1.1.2 2011/11/21 00:56:55 File A: L:\Music Folder\1 MP3 Files for flash drive\Show_Me_Your_Spine__Sample (dB 320 quality fast).mp3 File B: L:\Music Folder\1 MP3 Files for flash drive\Show_Me_Your_Spine__Sample (dB 320 quality slow).mp3 00:56:55 : Test started. 00:59:27 : 01/01 50.0% 01:02:12 : 02/02 25.0% 01:04:19 : 03/03 12.5% 01:05:31 : 04/04 6.3% 01:07:33 : 05/05 3.1% 01:08:38 : 06/06 1.6% 01:09:28 : 07/07 0.8% 01:10:02 : 08/08 0.4% 01:10:46 : 09/09 0.2% 01:11:23 : 10/10 0.1% 01:12:09 : 11/11 0.0% 01:12:55 : 12/12 0.0% 01:12:59 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 12/12 (0.0%) Since I could also ABX the "fast" version 11/11 times with the original WAV, I didn't bother to ABX the "slow" encode with the WAV: foo_abx 1.3.4 report foobar2000 v1.1.2 2011/11/21 01:18:16 File A: C:\Users\superbu\Music\1 WAV Files For Itunes Import\Show_Me_Your_Spine__Sample (TRUE WAV).wav File B: L:\Music Folder Backup\1 MP3 Files for flash drive\Show_Me_Your_Spine__Sample (db 320 quality fast).mp3 01:18:16 : Test started. 01:19:37 : 01/01 50.0% 01:20:24 : 02/02 25.0% 01:21:04 : 03/03 12.5% 01:21:36 : 04/04 6.3% 01:22:11 : 05/05 3.1% 01:23:00 : 06/06 1.6% 01:23:27 : 07/07 0.8% 01:24:33 : 08/08 0.4% 01:25:35 : 09/09 0.2% 01:26:04 : 10/10 0.1% 01:26:47 : 11/11 0.0% 01:26:52 : Test finished. ---------- Total: 11/11 (0.0%) Anyway, can someone explain to me how it's possible that the "fast (low quality)" encode could have less prominent artifacts than the "slow (high quality)" encode? I thought the slow encode was supposed to be of better quality. This post has been edited by superbu: Nov 22 2011, 05:12 |
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db1989 It certainly may help to upload your samples (30 s... Nov 22 2011, 11:45
superbu QUOTE (db1989 @ Nov 22 2011, 11:45) It ce... Nov 22 2011, 22:12
psycho QUOTE (db1989 @ Nov 22 2011, 11:45) I do ... Nov 23 2011, 16:56
lvqcl It seems that fast / slow means -f / -h (IOW: fast... Nov 23 2011, 03:22
lvqcl An example: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/in... Nov 23 2011, 17:12
db1989 To keep discussion in this thread, I’ll reply to y... Nov 25 2011, 08:53
superbu QUOTE (db1989 @ Nov 25 2011, 08:53) To ke... Nov 27 2011, 09:57
db1989 QUOTE (superbu @ Nov 27 2011, 08:57) I... Nov 27 2011, 14:08
superbu QUOTE (db1989 @ Nov 27 2011, 14:08) I... Nov 29 2011, 09:24
smok3 and you did actually abx all this? Care to share s... Nov 25 2011, 15:41
superbu QUOTE (smok3 @ Nov 25 2011, 15:41) and yo... Nov 27 2011, 09:59
db1989 I doubt that is a good idea. The default quality s... Nov 29 2011, 13:12
superbu QUOTE (db1989 @ Nov 29 2011, 14:12) I dou... Nov 29 2011, 21:12
Martel I clearly recall there was some version of LAME ma... Nov 30 2011, 16:21![]() ![]() |
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