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[TOS #8 and #7] WASAPI vs ASIO vs DirectSound |
Dec 10 2011, 21:43
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Group: Members Posts: 148 Joined: 14-July 02 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 2588 |
Is discussion of real world experience with different output modes forbidden?
Not everything can be reduced to ABX blind tests. Which woman is more beautiful, for example. Not all ears are created equal. Nor is all music. We don't elect our political leaders with blind tests. Opinion matters. [Garf: TOS7 violation removed] |
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Dec 12 2011, 23:50
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Threads often get binned because they are useless waste of time, posts often get binned from otherwise useful threads because they often cause them to spiral out of control.
Our terms are crystal clear: any expressed differences in sound quality must be accompanied with double-blind test results. It's fine to talk about whether something is bit-perfect or not bit-perfect but it is not fine to use that as evidence of differences in sound quality. Furthermore, justifying and/or qualifying such arguments based on whether you have adequate hardware is also unwelcome if it is not accompanied by objective, non-anecdotal evidence. You can throw food or argue religious (read: non-falsifiable) beliefs elsewhere. This post has been edited by greynol: Dec 13 2011, 00:13 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Dec 13 2011, 01:14
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Group: Members Posts: 148 Joined: 14-July 02 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 2588 |
Threads often get binned because they are useless waste of time, posts often get binned from otherwise useful threads because they often cause them to spiral out of control. I know that problem well and you have my sympathy. QUOTE Our terms are crystal clear: any expressed differences in sound quality must be accompanied with double-blind test results. That's a very high bar, but it can also be flawed. The odds of flipping a coin and getting heads 100 times in a row aren't zero. QUOTE It's fine to talk about whether something is bit-perfect or not bit-perfect but it is not fine to use that as evidence of differences in sound quality. I agree that it should not be viewed as "evidence" or fact, but it is sometimes relevant. I can hear differences. You might not believe that and I accept that you don't, but I do hear differences. QUOTE Furthermore, justifying and/or qualifying such arguments based on whether you have adequate hardware is also unwelcome ... While you would like scientific evidence for such beliefs, I think it is often more subjective. Keep in mind that I'm not a big spender on audio equipment like other people can be (Monkey/Matt Ashland above, for example So, I'll let you go on keeping guard over the HA flock. I respect your right and need to do so. Is it too soon to say "Happy Holidays"? |
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JimH [TOS #8 and #7] WASAPI vs ASIO vs DirectSound Dec 10 2011, 21:43
Garf QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 10 2011, 21:43) Is disc... Dec 11 2011, 10:42
Case No ABX is necessary when comparing different outpu... Dec 11 2011, 10:55
JimH QUOTE (Case @ Dec 11 2011, 03:55) No ABX ... Dec 11 2011, 14:52
JimH To quote Matt Ashland, author of Monkeys Audio and... Dec 12 2011, 17:50
Canar Bit-perfect vs. non-bit-perfect is not audible; th... Dec 12 2011, 22:19
Roseval QUOTE (Canar @ Dec 12 2011, 22:19) Bit-pe... Dec 12 2011, 23:12
monkey Bit-perfect vs non-bit-perfect is objective. It... Dec 12 2011, 23:17
Canar QUOTE (monkey @ Dec 12 2011, 14:17) And i... Dec 12 2011, 23:22
JimH Canar,
You have me at a disadvantage. Arguing wit... Dec 12 2011, 23:15
JimH Thank you. Dec 12 2011, 23:37
andy o QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 12 2011, 16:14) QUOTE O... Dec 13 2011, 10:17
greynol ...and you might simply be imagining that you... Dec 13 2011, 01:24
greynol QUOTE (greynol @ Dec 12 2011, 16:24) Gett... Dec 13 2011, 19:18
JimH QUOTE (greynol @ Dec 13 2011, 12:18) QUOT... Dec 13 2011, 20:01
Notat The advantage of a bit-perfect system is that it s... Dec 13 2011, 16:21
db1989 I split the threadjack about foobar2000’s WASAPI o... Dec 13 2011, 16:45![]() ![]() |
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