Sansa Fuze vs Ipod Touch 4th Generation for Sound Quality only, Moved from General Audio (TOS #6) Options

[samd1885]

Hey, I am hoping that someone has tried both and has an honest opinion. I have christmas money and wish to buy an MP3 player, I was wandering which is better, the Sansa Fuze or the Ipod Touch. I only really care about sound quality and any opinions however slight about audio quality would really help. I really don't want any price value opinions though as I want an honest opinion about only sound quality. Thank you! The stock headphones don't matter, I have sennheiser cx 300 ii's and hd 485's. I will put lossless or high bit rate audio on it. Thank you, all help much appreiciated,

Sam.

[samd1885]

I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.

Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage? Does it need to match the hifi system? If I am using the amp from the hifi. Please explain, I have no idea, sorry,

Thanks,
Sam.

This post has been edited by db1989: Jan 1 2012, 15:54

Reason for edit: merging in needless double-post (2 min difference) referring to same post and removing two unnecessary full quotes

[saratoga]

I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.
Thanks,
Sam.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=92595

Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage?

Check the section "maximum output" in the link to the clip+ tests I posted above. The FuzeV2 and Clip+ are identical in this regard.

[samd1885]

I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.
Thanks,
Sam.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=92595

Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage?

Check the section "maximum output" in the link to the clip+ tests I posted above. The FuzeV2 and Clip+ are identical in this regard.

I have checked it, very interesting but I have a question, I am a newbie at this and was wandering what maximum output needs to be to provide decent quality through a hifi amplifier. I will plug it into my amp which are connected to hifi speakers. The clip+1 (Fuze v2 too..) has a max output of 489 mv and the ipod touch 474mv. Will the Fuze be sufficient for a hifi amp? What is needed. Sorry, I don't understand it's importance, all help would be much appreciated,
thanks,
Sam.

[saratoga]

I have checked it, very interesting but I have a question, I am a newbie at this and was wandering what maximum output needs to be to provide decent quality through a hifi amplifier.

It doesn't really matter that much in practice, but a couple hundred mV should be fine. You can always use line out on a fuze which should work fine as well.

[samd1885]

And the line out bypasses the Fuze's amp and utilizes the hifi's amp, making it sound much better. Thank you! Sudden clarity in my mind from a hell of a lot of distortion. So now all I need to do is find a line out cable that I could buy for the fuze when I buy them together. Great, does this make the fuze merely a data storage then by using line out as it bypasses the fuze's amp?

This post has been edited by db1989: Jan 1 2012, 15:56

Reason for edit: removing unnecessary full quote of above post. Please note this!

[saratoga]

And the line out bypasses the Fuze's amp and utilizes the hifi's amp, making it sound much better.

Its not going to impact quality.

Great, does this make the fuze merely a data storage then by using line out as it bypasses the fuze's amp?

Aside from the differences discussed in the thread I linked, it doesn't really do much else difference for you.

[samd1885]

In the forum you posted, most people said it would be unprocessed audio allowing it to be processed by the hifi amp rather than the player. Therefore I thought it would sound better going through a £300 amp than going through a £30 fuze too. I am a little confused sorry. How would I connect the lineout to the hifi if it didn't have a direct input, would using RCA audio cable or would that be worse quality? If I had an AUX should it provide beneficial audio over the RCA.

This post has been edited by db1989: Jan 1 2012, 15:56

Reason for edit: see post #28

[saratoga]

Therefore I thought it would sound better going through a £300 amp than going through a £30 fuze too. I am a little confused sorry.

You're not going to improve anything. We're talking about the output of an mp3 player. This is so trivially good enough that improvement is essentially impossible.

How would I connect the lineout to the hifi if it didn't have a direct input, would using RCA audio cable or would that be worse quality? If I had an AUX should it provide beneficial audio over the RCA.

Figure out what connectors your stereo has, then buy something that can connect to either of the ports on the mp3 player. AUX/RCA/etc are all fine.