An Audiophile Use AAC file? |
An Audiophile Use AAC file? |
Jan 5 2012, 20:17
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Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 21-July 09 Member No.: 71655 |
Hi to all,
I think that here there is some audiophile... Do you use AAC file on your HIFI or only lossless (FLAC/ALAC) or CD Audio? Actually i'm trying to make a good ABX and I admit... I can't find difference with the MP3/AAC file and CD... I don't find differences. What is your experience? Do you use AAC file on a 1.000 dollars HiFi system or you will prefer FLAC? Thanks |
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Feb 13 2012, 21:35
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Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-February 07 From: Italy Member No.: 40806 |
Hi guys !! I am usually a lurker here, but this time I want to let you know my experience.
First of all, I'm not that kind of audiophile person.. let's say just enthusiatic: I enjoy music when it sounds good. That's all. I've got a pretty expensive equipment, I mean.. not "very" expensive, but more than usual: amplifier + cd reader + acoustic speakers = about 850 euros. For those interested the system it's a Denon, while the speakers came from Chario: of course, both of them generally speaking receive very goods rate. I can't do properly an ABX test, since I'm missing a DAC, then the capability to use foobar along with the Hi-Fi.. Despite of this I tried to look for differences between lossy and lossless. When you know what you are hearing you are encouraged to see differences.. well, I have to say I'm not able to hear any minimal difference between mp3 / aac over 160 kbs and waves. In many cases even 128 kbs aac are not detectable. I observed the same with a pretty decent headphone (Sennheiser HD 448, about 100 euros). My equipment is maybe not the best, or I'm almost deaf.. Just to complete: it's quite easy to point out a difference when the same file sounds through an ipod connected via dock the line out, or directly by the CD player for example.. that's a good indication of the fact the the DACs are quite different, and in this case the one of my CD player is out-performing the one of ipod nano. I'm quite confused as well reading some of yours ABX here: I found them unuseful without knowing which equipment was used. I really do not understand why people are so strict when speaking about audio. Of course spectras are different.. but as far as I know no one is complaing when watching JPGs instead of TIFF. And I can bet for all of you the eye is better then the ear. Perhaps I'm wrong ? Anyway.. I buy CDs.. why ? Because they are now actually cheaper.. and I can convert them in the format I prefer. Otherwise, I'm convincing myself I've nothing against compressed music: probably sounds better than what I will ever able to catch. Audiophiles as well claimg "yes I am able to ABX .." state differences are minimal, use strange adjectives to justify their claims.. and admit there's nothing wrong with compressed files.. they only sound marginally different (but not "bad" or "wrong"), and they want to stick to the original signal as much as possible since the word "hi-fi" is what it means: high-fidelity. Bye This post has been edited by SHiV: Feb 13 2012, 21:38 |
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Feb 14 2012, 20:31
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Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 46048 |
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Antigen An Audiophile Use AAC file? Jan 5 2012, 20:17
DVDdoug If you can't hear the difference on an average... Jan 5 2012, 20:42
greynol QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jan 5 2012, 11:42) Howev... Jan 5 2012, 21:13
C.R.Helmrich I thought the same but then realized he probably m... Jan 5 2012, 21:55

greynol If you own an inexpensive sound system, why not di... Jan 5 2012, 22:01
andy o QUOTE (greynol @ Jan 5 2012, 12:13) QUOTE... Jan 6 2012, 04:17
Antigen I have talked with a "aduiofanatic"
I ... Jan 5 2012, 20:54
db1989 QUOTE (Antigen @ Jan 5 2012, 19:54) I hav... Jan 5 2012, 22:49
nesf Don't know if I'd consider myself an audio... Jan 5 2012, 23:35
Pete7874 QUOTE (nesf @ Jan 5 2012, 16:35) But, to ... Jan 15 2012, 17:47
LocrianGroove I usually play FLAC when I'm listening to musi... Jan 7 2012, 07:33
Antigen I think that actually:
- for portable use (iPod/C... Jan 7 2012, 14:20
brownianm QUOTE (Antigen @ Jan 7 2012, 14:20) I thi... Jan 15 2012, 21:48
kornchild2002 QUOTE (Antigen @ Jan 7 2012, 06:20) Becau... Jan 16 2012, 00:45
Antigen I think that FLAC is a good solution only because ... Feb 10 2012, 11:23
hlloyge QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Jan 16 2012, 00:45... Feb 10 2012, 13:56
kornchild2002 QUOTE (hlloyge @ Feb 10 2012, 05:56) And ... Feb 11 2012, 15:59
Porcus QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Feb 11 2012, 15:59... Feb 11 2012, 16:44
greynol Hearing test tones above 17kHz does not necessaril... Jan 15 2012, 19:03
Ouroboros Definitely placebo effect. If you can't double... Feb 10 2012, 13:53
kennedyb4 I have difficulty with AAC at 96kbps.
Having said... Feb 10 2012, 14:05
brunoleiteb But hey, even if it's a placebo, it works righ... Feb 10 2012, 14:17
Porcus QUOTE (brunoleiteb @ Feb 10 2012, 14:17) ... Feb 10 2012, 14:34
IgorC QUOTE (Antigen @ Jan 5 2012, 16:17) Do yo... Feb 10 2012, 15:25
Antigen Today I have tried to do an ABX test with good hea... Feb 10 2012, 16:46
Ouroboros What your girlfriend heard or didn't hear (... Feb 10 2012, 16:53
Antigen The log of the ABX test is very simple:
- 0 track... Feb 10 2012, 16:57
Zarggg QUOTE (Antigen @ Feb 10 2012, 10:57) The ... Feb 10 2012, 18:50
greynol QUOTE (Antigen @ Feb 10 2012, 07:57) she ... Feb 13 2012, 21:45
Canar Let's not be legalistic about ABX logs. He can... Feb 10 2012, 16:56
Ouroboros No. No no no no no!
If your girlfriend couldn... Feb 10 2012, 18:52
Antigen Sorry, I had created some confusion.
The conclusi... Feb 10 2012, 19:48
smok3 CODEbut as far as I know no one is complaing when ... Feb 14 2012, 00:15
SHiV QUOTE (smok3 @ Feb 14 2012, 01:15) CODEbu... Feb 14 2012, 18:59
SHiV QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Feb 14 2012, 21:31) QU... Feb 14 2012, 21:21
Antigen But if you consider accetable use AAC versus CD...... Feb 28 2012, 01:33
smz Hi, everybody!
I'm totally aware that in ... Feb 28 2012, 03:09
Antigen I think that the CD and the Vinyl are on the dead ... Feb 28 2012, 09:56![]() ![]() |
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