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Stereo or Joint Stereo for mp3 320 CBR using foobar2000 and LAME 3.99.
AlexanderMKD
post Jan 20 2012, 03:25
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Hi all, im new here and im new to converting and decoding so i have one question... smile.gif

I was wondering which is better for mp3 320 CBR, Stereo or Joint Stereo?

Im using foobar 2000 v1.1.10 and LAME 3.99.3 (stable release) for converting .flac or .waw to mp3 320 cbr, mostly i download a remastered flac discographys from rock and metal bands and convert them into mp3 320.

Also i like to ask for a explanation of a few options in foobar2000?

- Encoder: i use mp3 320 CBR, than i go to custom, choose lame for encoder and there is one more option... Bit Depht Control, in Format is: it haves option lossy and option losseless (or hybrid)... which one to choose? Highest BPS mode suported i have to default, on 24.

also i like to ask for explanation for these options in Processing circled in red?



Can Mono be converted to Stereo?


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greynol
post Jan 20 2012, 04:34
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QUOTE (AlexanderMKD @ Jan 19 2012, 19:03) *
Is really Stereo Lossy and Joint Stereo Losseless?
Stereo and joint-stereo are mathematically equivalent. We call joint-stereo "lossless" only to indicate this relationship and hence ease fear. It does not mean that one is lossy and the other is lossless.

QUOTE (AlexanderMKD @ Jan 19 2012, 19:03) *
why Force Stereo and not just Stereo whats the difference?
The other option is forced joint-stereo, not forced stereo. This forces all frames to be mid-side, while regular joint-stereo can use either mid-side frames or left-right frames, depending on which is more efficient.

This post has been edited by greynol: Jan 20 2012, 18:42
Reason for edit: Added quotations to indicate that I'm answering two separate questions that are actually unrelated.


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- AlexanderMKD   Stereo or Joint Stereo for mp3 320 CBR using foobar2000 and LAME 3.99.   Jan 20 2012, 03:25
- - tpijag   From today - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/i...   Jan 20 2012, 03:55
- - AlexanderMKD   Thanks for the replay. Mabye i should reply to tha...   Jan 20 2012, 04:03
- - greynol   QUOTE (AlexanderMKD @ Jan 19 2012, 19:03)...   Jan 20 2012, 04:34
|- - halb27   QUOTE (greynol @ Jan 20 2012, 04:34) Ster...   Jan 20 2012, 08:39
|- - greynol   QUOTE (halb27 @ Jan 19 2012, 23:39) the q...   Jan 20 2012, 18:03
- - AlexanderMKD   Thanks for the replays. What confuses me is that ...   Jan 20 2012, 06:08
- - tpijag   I am not an expert, but the custom dialog form is ...   Jan 20 2012, 06:49
- - slks   The Lossy or Lossless option in the foobar encodin...   Jan 20 2012, 07:16
|- - greynol   QUOTE (slks @ Jan 19 2012, 22:16) The bet...   Jan 20 2012, 07:53
- - psycho   halb27, joint-stereo MS (mid-side) IS equivalent t...   Jan 20 2012, 08:43
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (psycho @ Jan 20 2012, 07:43) halb2...   Jan 20 2012, 18:33
|- - Hanseat   You are using 320 CBR mode because your car stereo...   Jan 20 2012, 20:54
- - halb27   No I don't. You only consider signal represent...   Jan 20 2012, 08:55
- - sld   Isn't Joint-Stereo, in the case of LAME, just ...   Jan 20 2012, 09:14
- - halb27   Yes, that's the way joint-stereo is targeting ...   Jan 20 2012, 09:18
- - mjb2006   The OP also asked about ReplayGain and the standar...   Jan 20 2012, 12:06
|- - db1989   QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Jan 20 2012, 11:06) The ...   Jan 20 2012, 12:55
- - mjb2006   He also said he had one question, then asked, like...   Jan 20 2012, 13:03
- - greynol   I don't think forced M/S is the encoding mode ...   Jan 20 2012, 21:18
- - Hanseat   I mean: Would you say that the possible disadvanta...   Jan 20 2012, 22:14
- - Aleron Ives   Think of it this way: why would the LAME developer...   Jan 20 2012, 23:51
- - AlexanderMKD   What about converting an album from one FLAC file ...   Feb 15 2012, 23:34
- - greynol   Please start a new discussion rather than drag thi...   Feb 15 2012, 23:43
- - db1989   As another mod/admin has merged the above post bac...   Feb 15 2012, 23:43
- - greynol   RE: Stereo or Joint Stereo for mp3 320 CBR using foobar2000 and LAME 3.99.   Feb 15 2012, 23:47


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