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jamesbaud
post Feb 5 2012, 12:14
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http://m.usatoday.com/article/tech/52963362

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post Feb 7 2012, 16:41
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So I suppose that makes me irrationally biased against vinyl?


Why irrationally? Biased is just fine on its own.

I usually warn every one off who as a newbie wants to get into vinyl. That is why I rarely participate anymore in threads when someone asks advice.
In my experience there is no, absolutely no vinyl out there that is without surface noise, and I have to rely on almost fifty years of vinyl playback.
Even in the golden age of vinyl, often enough I put on a new LP that started with a barrage of surface noise on the lead in track, to continue like that throughout the record in between songs.
No amount of cleaning would do.
I have one among two thousands records I own at present one (there maybe one or two more at max)that is really quiet, and could be mistaken for a CD - a first Canadian pressing of the first Stones album. But even there - Some noise can be still heard on some breaks between tracks, but it is pleasantly unobtrusive.

I buy all my vinyl used, some is still from my original collection from the sixties and seventies. I ran wet, and still do on the Thorenses today. On the Technics that is not possible, with the result that even on clean records (I clean before every playback with 50/50 Isoprop/aqua dest.) after playback I have dust bunnies collected on the stylus because of the static attraction.

I love vinyl still because I grew up with it, my first TT was a Braun (1966) with considerable rumble, and it was then I started to tweak to get the noise down. The Transcriptors in the picture above I own since 1971, when I picked it up from a dealer in Oxford Street, London.
Yes, there is tacky artwork out there, but that applies to CD's as well. And if it is tacky (like the Hendrix EL with the nudes) - I want to see it in the full revealed glory of at least 12" x 12".

I embraced CD fully when it came out, and after a relapse triggered in part by Fremer's tirades I set up my vinyl again in 1995, only to conclude after AB comparisons that the CD sound is in no way inferior, and superior to the LP being free of surface noise.
I still have the players as I like the "tangibility" of vinyl and the accompanying rigging (I clean and maintain and tweak all players myself), and the nostalgia of my own life with HIFI.

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- jamesbaud   USA Today: Music lovers pursue technologies to return to high fidelity   Feb 5 2012, 12:14
- - C.R.Helmrich   Here we go again. I had to stop at page 5. QUOTE ...   Feb 5 2012, 12:36
- - Kohlrabi   The article, if you may even call it that for it...   Feb 5 2012, 12:39
- - skamp   Here's the full page article.   Feb 5 2012, 13:10
- - derty2   Speaking as a music lover and consumer of high-fid...   Feb 5 2012, 14:12
|- - db1989   QUOTE (derty2 @ Feb 5 2012, 13:12) HDTrac...   Feb 5 2012, 14:45
- - zima   With small assault of such articles recently (say,...   Feb 5 2012, 14:20
- - hlloyge   So, it's not article worth of reading, then?   Feb 5 2012, 17:37
|- - db1989   Because the article is by default displayed as a s...   Feb 5 2012, 17:51
- - kraut   QUOTE So, it's not article worth of reading, t...   Feb 5 2012, 19:53
|- - C.R.Helmrich   QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 5 2012, 20:53) No, not...   Feb 5 2012, 21:46
- - Speedskater   Was the video demo of the difference between MP3 a...   Feb 5 2012, 20:30
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Speedskater @ Feb 5 2012, 19:30) W...   Feb 6 2012, 12:42
- - smok3   Can we have this logo: pretty please?   Feb 5 2012, 20:58
- - Carledwards   I would characterize this article as completely wo...   Feb 5 2012, 21:25
- - MichaelW   I wonder if part of the point of this kind of rubb...   Feb 5 2012, 22:01
|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (MichaelW @ Feb 5 2012, 22:01) I wo...   Feb 6 2012, 16:55
- - kraut   QUOTE Uh, if you call an A/D converter a computer,...   Feb 5 2012, 22:41
- - wakibaki   QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Feb 5 2012, 20:46) ...   Feb 6 2012, 02:45
- - andy o   QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 5 2012, 08:51) Becaus...   Feb 6 2012, 17:08
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (andy o @ Feb 6 2012, 16:08) HA fav...   Feb 6 2012, 18:01
||- - andy o   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 6 2012, 09:01) I t...   Feb 6 2012, 19:11
||- - Kohlrabi   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 6 2012, 18:01) QUO...   Feb 7 2012, 01:28
||- - IgorC   QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Feb 6 2012, 21:28) That...   Feb 7 2012, 01:54
|- - db1989   QUOTE (andy o @ Feb 6 2012, 16:08) QUOTE ...   Feb 6 2012, 23:33
- - dhromed   I had to stop reading. My blood pressure is more i...   Feb 6 2012, 17:47
- - andy o   Even if it were real engineers, I wonder what actu...   Feb 7 2012, 03:36
- - Kohlrabi   QUOTE (IgorC @ Feb 7 2012, 01:54) The pro...   Feb 7 2012, 09:42
- - IgorC   The article has no scientific signature. There is ...   Feb 7 2012, 14:04
- - IgorC   From linkedin of Pat McMakin: QUOTE I have a busi...   Feb 7 2012, 15:15
- - kraut   QUOTE Now there are people who admit that Vinyl is...   Feb 7 2012, 15:33
|- - db1989   Great points! And nice equipment. QUOTE (kra...   Feb 7 2012, 15:47
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 7 2012, 15:33) two Tho...   Feb 7 2012, 19:26
|- - Ron Jones   QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 7 2012, 07:33) Also, a...   Feb 7 2012, 21:53
- - dhromed   Funny, I grew up in the transitional period from v...   Feb 7 2012, 16:02
- - Engelsstaub   Nah dhromed, I don't think it makes you irrati...   Feb 7 2012, 16:17
- - kraut   QUOTE So I suppose that makes me irrationally bias...   Feb 7 2012, 16:41
- - dhromed   I was a wee lad in the 80's. Yes, my bias agai...   Feb 7 2012, 16:58
- - kraut   As the thread is off the rails for now... The one...   Feb 7 2012, 20:34
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (kraut @ Feb 7 2012, 20:34) (any go...   Feb 7 2012, 22:47
- - kraut   http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/200...urnta...   Feb 7 2012, 22:28


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