Why Vinyl Sounds Better Than CD, Or Not, A Topic on NPR Science Friday Feb 10 2012, 2-4 PM EST |
Why Vinyl Sounds Better Than CD, Or Not, A Topic on NPR Science Friday Feb 10 2012, 2-4 PM EST |
Feb 9 2012, 21:57
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This will be a topic on NPR Science Friday tomorrow at 12:30 PST. I will be one of two guests talking about this and other audio topics related to perception and measurement of sound quality. Should be fun!
This post has been edited by solive: Feb 9 2012, 21:58 -------------------- Sean Olive
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Feb 12 2012, 00:01
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The part about the media and listeners bias was really spot on!
Sadly, the standard dropped rapidly when it got to lossy compression - a lot of subjective and undifferentiated claims (not by Sean Olive though). A real letdown was the kind of attention Mr. Metcalfe gave to the difference signal - does he know anything at all about psychoacoustics!? This post has been edited by Northpack: Feb 12 2012, 00:12 |
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Feb 12 2012, 00:40
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A real letdown was the kind of attention Mr. Metcalfe gave to the difference signal - does he know anything at all about psychoacoustics!? I've seen the phase reversal trick used on a few occasions now to show "how much is missing with mp3". What's interesting is that, especially when presented with higher bitrates, they can't actually make the case that people can hear the difference when you play them side by side, so instead they have to present you with "the differences" so that you'll understand how truly horrid mp3 encoding is. -------------------- FLAC -2 w/ lossyWAV 1.3.0i -q X -i
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Feb 12 2012, 12:05
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I've seen the phase reversal trick used on a few occasions now to show "how much is missing with mp3". What's interesting is that, especially when presented with higher bitrates, they can't actually make the case that people can hear the difference when you play them side by side, so instead they have to present you with "the differences" so that you'll understand how truly horrid mp3 encoding is. The difference signal has no meaning at all regarding lossy encoding. How is MP3 "horrid" if it cannot be ABXed/differentiated with certainty? If a lossy codec is transparent to most listeners it achieved its purpose. In my opinion MP3 is horrid because of the ID3 tagging disaster and non-gapless design, the audio quality is certainly not a major issue, as has been shown in community listening tests. I, myself, have a very hard time ABXing LAME -V4. -------------------- Audiophiles live in constant fear of jitter.
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solive Why Vinyl Sounds Better Than CD, Or Not Feb 9 2012, 21:57
pdq Fantastic! I will be listening. Feb 9 2012, 22:04
andy o thanks for the heads up! Feb 9 2012, 22:19
Soap As always podcast downloads of the program will be... Feb 9 2012, 23:34
Canar I'll try to be around for that. Sounds great. ... Feb 10 2012, 03:19
woody_woodward For those who missed this, this is a link to the w... Feb 11 2012, 18:45
FreaqyFrequency QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Feb 12 2012, 06:05) The... Feb 12 2012, 21:06
Kohlrabi QUOTE (FreaqyFrequency @ Feb 12 2012, 21... Feb 12 2012, 21:35
mixminus1 I'd love to see someone - not necessarily Mr. ... Feb 12 2012, 02:12
Engelsstaub I found the podcast and your input very interestin... Feb 12 2012, 06:30
The Seeker Found the part at 20:12 fascinating, i.e. letting ... Feb 12 2012, 18:24![]() ![]() |
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