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24 bit vinyl clips, Examples of 24 bit vinyl and bit-reduced versions |
Feb 15 2012, 19:03
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Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 14-February 12 Member No.: 97144 |
Attached are several clips for vinyl rips, each in (24/48) and (16/44.1) -- I have many more but 7 I filled up my attachment space. I used Izotope's SRC and MBit+ algorithms to do the conversion, I converted sample rate first and then bit rate. The rips were done using Thorens Turntable, Lyra Delos cartride, Parasound phono pre, Burl B2 ADC, Lynx AES16 card, Pure Vinyl software. If anyone has better conversion technology than Izotope I would be interested to hear those samples for my own comparison, as a practical matter I would like to have the best possible bit reduced versions in my library in addition to my 24 bit versions. If anyone is interested in specific notes on what I'm hearing as the differences in my playback system then let me know. The sources are: Dire Straits "Romeo And Juliet" Prefab Sprout "Faron Young" Yes "Roundabout" The National "Bloodbuzz Ohio" Cat Stevens "Father And Son" Roxy Music "Running Wild" John Lennon "Mind Games" Thanks for checking these out.
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Faron_Young__30s___24_48_.wav ( 7.9MB )
Number of downloads: 136
Father_And_Son__30s___16_44_.wav ( 5.17MB )
Number of downloads: 77
Running_Wild__30s___24_48_.wav ( 8.27MB )
Number of downloads: 57
Romeo_And_Juliet__30s___24_48_.wav ( 6.98MB )
Number of downloads: 137
Father_And_Son__30s___24_48_.wav ( 8.37MB )
Number of downloads: 75
Roundabout__30s___24_48_.wav ( 8.53MB )
Number of downloads: 64
Roundabout__30s___16_44_.wav ( 5.27MB )
Number of downloads: 50
Bloodbuzz_Ohio__30s___24_48_.wav ( 8.37MB )
Number of downloads: 59
Bloodbuzz_Ohio__30s___16_44_.wav ( 5.16MB )
Number of downloads: 48
Mind_Games__30s___16_44_.wav ( 5.05MB )
Number of downloads: 47
Mind_Games__30s___24_48_.wav ( 8.24MB )
Number of downloads: 60
Faron_Young__30s___16_44_.wav ( 4.88MB )
Number of downloads: 62
Running_Wild__30s___16_44_.wav ( 5.11MB )
Number of downloads: 60
Romeo_And_Juliet__30s___16_44_.wav ( 4.31MB )
Number of downloads: 87 |
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Feb 16 2012, 00:31
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![]() Group: Developer Posts: 304 Joined: 29-April 11 From: Austria Member No.: 90198 |
Thanks for the samples. A simple analysis showed that most don't even use over 20 dB dynamic range. There's one sample which uses ~31 dB dynamic range.
As for sample rate conversion I suggest SoX. Dithering shouldn't be audible with those dynamic range numbers unless you use some aggressive noise shaping that adds a lot of HF noise .. which is only audible if you don't have HF hearing loss though. This post has been edited by xnor: Feb 16 2012, 00:32 |
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Feb 16 2012, 03:49
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Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 14-February 12 Member No.: 97144 |
Thanks for the samples. A simple analysis showed that most don't even use over 20 dB dynamic range. There's one sample which uses ~31 dB dynamic range. As for sample rate conversion I suggest SoX. Dithering shouldn't be audible with those dynamic range numbers unless you use some aggressive noise shaping that adds a lot of HF noise .. which is only audible if you don't have HF hearing loss though. Thanks Xnor, I measured these on AudioLeak and I get about 20dB between peak to RMS. Typically my CDs measure less than that. So is your 20dB the same as what AudioLeak is measuring? Would it help if I gave the snapshot from AudioLeak? The last I tested my HF response it was very good. I will check SOX and I'm also going to look at the frequency spectrum difference in the samples using Logic Pro's EQ match. |
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Gretschguy 24 bit vinyl clips Feb 15 2012, 19:03
Wombat It shouldn´t be of any advantage to use iZotope di... Feb 15 2012, 19:35
Wombat I gave this Faron Young sample a try and played it... Feb 15 2012, 20:44
Gretschguy QUOTE (Wombat @ Feb 15 2012, 20:44) I gav... Feb 15 2012, 21:57
greynol QUOTE (Gretschguy @ Feb 15 2012, 12:57) D... Feb 15 2012, 22:09
Gretschguy QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 15 2012, 22:09) QUOT... Feb 15 2012, 22:28
pdq An interesting experiment for Gretschguy to perfor... Feb 15 2012, 21:09
Gretschguy QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 15 2012, 21:09) An inter... Feb 15 2012, 21:43
pdq From the website for the DAC, it appears that it d... Feb 15 2012, 21:52
Gretschguy QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 15 2012, 21:52) From the... Feb 15 2012, 22:00
greynol Let there be no doubt that any audible differences... Feb 15 2012, 22:02
Gretschguy QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 15 2012, 22:02) Let ... Feb 15 2012, 22:17
greynol It's readily accepted that best practice is to... Feb 15 2012, 22:21
Wombat QUOTE (Gretschguy @ Feb 15 2012, 21:57) W... Feb 15 2012, 22:31
Gretschguy QUOTE (Wombat @ Feb 15 2012, 23:31) QUOTE... Feb 15 2012, 22:40
greynol If you cannot demonstrate that what you're hea... Feb 15 2012, 22:35
Gretschguy QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 15 2012, 23:35) If y... Feb 15 2012, 22:41
AndyH-ha What are you asking for? Do you have a problem to ... Feb 15 2012, 22:39
mixminus1 @Gretschguy, a couple questions:
1) You said earl... Feb 15 2012, 22:55
Gretschguy QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Feb 15 2012, 22:55) @G... Feb 15 2012, 23:27
greynol QUOTE (Gretschguy @ Feb 15 2012, 14:27) M... Feb 15 2012, 23:33
greynol He could just up-convert to the highest bit depth/... Feb 15 2012, 23:16
mjb2006 I wouldn't worry about using SoX. Izotope... Feb 16 2012, 03:43
Gretschguy QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Feb 16 2012, 04:43) I wo... Feb 16 2012, 03:51
cliveb OK, I have listened to Gretschguy's vinyl clip... Feb 16 2012, 10:17
2Bdecided Sorry to reply a third time!
I've been en... Feb 20 2012, 14:34
Gretschguy QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 20 2012, 15:34) So... Feb 21 2012, 03:24![]() ![]() |
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