High Playback Sampling Frequencies, Why are they becoming popular? |
High Playback Sampling Frequencies, Why are they becoming popular? |
Feb 17 2012, 16:25
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OK, at the risk of sounding completely stupid?
Why do people listen to music with high sampling frequencies? What is 88k+ providing them? I understand why you might record at a high sampling rate, but why keep that for playback? Looking through the FAQ, there are threads from 2003 that point out that the sampling frequency and bit-dept work in tandem. So the quantisation error of 16bit at 44.1k has the opportunity to be corrected sooner at a higher sampling rate, so in some ways is like a dithering pattern. However given noise introduced in the analogue systems required to listen to music, a SNR within a 16bit signal of ~96dB seems pretty good. So assuming that speakers struggle to produce the sounds that a 192k sampling frequency allow (eg 96kHz) and assuming that 16bits were sufficient when compared to the analogue equipment in the system, what have I missed in these high sampling playback formats? |
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icstm High Playback Sampling Frequencies Feb 17 2012, 16:25
Prince Of All Saiyans I'm not totally sure, but recalling my ever-so... Feb 17 2012, 16:37
dhromed QUOTE (Prince Of All Saiyans @ Feb 17 2012, 1... Feb 17 2012, 16:55
greynol QUOTE (Prince Of All Saiyans @ Feb 17 2012, 0... Feb 17 2012, 17:19

Prince Of All Saiyans QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 17 2012, 17:19) QUOT... Feb 17 2012, 17:53
pawelq QUOTE (Prince Of All Saiyans @ Feb 17 2012, 1... Feb 17 2012, 19:05
icstm QUOTE (pawelq @ Feb 17 2012, 18:05) 10 or... Feb 18 2012, 00:27
dhromed QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 17 2012, 16:25) what h... Feb 17 2012, 16:51
pdq People sell music with higher sampling rates for t... Feb 17 2012, 16:52
Prince Of All Saiyans Exactly. That's why you see headphones with fr... Feb 17 2012, 16:56
Bartholomew MacGruber I'm still confused as to why studios use reall... Feb 19 2012, 15:14
saratoga QUOTE (Bartholomew MacGruber @ Feb 19 2012, 0... Feb 19 2012, 23:12

Walter_Odington For producing sound/music then higher bit depths a... Feb 20 2012, 00:52

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saratoga QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 19... Feb 20 2012, 02:06

Ron Jones QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 16... Feb 20 2012, 03:37
Ethan Winer QUOTE (Bartholomew MacGruber @ Feb 19 2012, 0... Feb 20 2012, 20:01
Ron Jones QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Feb 20 2012, 12:01) ... Feb 20 2012, 20:46

knutinh QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Feb 20 2012, 21:46) De... Feb 20 2012, 21:24

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Feb 20 2012, 14:46) QU... Feb 21 2012, 13:43

Ethan Winer QUOTE (Ron Jones @ Feb 20 2012, 14:46) De... Feb 23 2012, 20:04

Walter_Odington Loved food does generally taste better. Now define... Feb 23 2012, 21:27

rick.hughes QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Feb 23 2012, 14:04) ... Feb 24 2012, 14:45
saratoga QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Feb 20 2012, 14:01) ... Feb 20 2012, 22:23
Woodinville QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Feb 20 2012, 11:01) ... Feb 21 2012, 18:12
Ethan Winer QUOTE (Woodinville @ Feb 21 2012, 12:12) ... Feb 21 2012, 19:24
Walter_Odington I see I have walked in to the lions den!
I... Feb 20 2012, 02:34
greynol QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 17... Feb 20 2012, 02:49
saratoga QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 20... Feb 20 2012, 02:52
Walter_Odington I think I've misunderestimated the amount of e... Feb 20 2012, 02:56
saratoga QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 20... Feb 20 2012, 03:09
Walter_Odington Saratoga, just seen your latest. I appreciate I ne... Feb 20 2012, 03:09
saratoga QUOTE (Walter_Odington @ Feb 19 2012, 21... Feb 20 2012, 03:22
IgorC QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 19 2012, 23:22) The... Feb 20 2012, 03:50
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Walter_Odington QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 20 2012, 04:59) QUO... Feb 23 2012, 06:37
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Walter_Odington Your right that my understanding is limited given ... Feb 20 2012, 04:53
wakibaki Just as an aside, bit depths and sampling rates ar... Feb 20 2012, 05:14
saratoga QUOTE (wakibaki @ Feb 19 2012, 23:14) The... Feb 20 2012, 06:09

knutinh QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 20 2012, 07:09) QUO... Feb 20 2012, 08:34
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (wakibaki @ Feb 19 2012, 23:14) The... Feb 21 2012, 13:51
Woodinville QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 21 2012, 04... Feb 21 2012, 18:14
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knutinh QUOTE (wakibaki @ Feb 22 2012, 05:44) I u... Feb 22 2012, 07:59
Ethan Winer QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 21 2012, 21:54) No ... Feb 22 2012, 18:42
db1989 QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Feb 22 2012, 17:42) ... Feb 22 2012, 18:50
icstm As I wrote the OP, I am going to wade in here
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zaentzpantz QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 17 2012, 15:25) OK, at... Feb 20 2012, 12:02
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (zaentzpantz @ Feb 20 2012, 06:02) ... Feb 20 2012, 14:06
icstm QUOTE (zaentzpantz @ Feb 20 2012, 11:02) ... Feb 20 2012, 14:43
2Bdecided People are selling music in high sample rates and ... Feb 20 2012, 12:21
knutinh QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 20 2012, 13:21) ..... Feb 20 2012, 15:17
IgorC QUOTE (knutinh @ Feb 20 2012, 11:17) QUOT... Feb 20 2012, 18:20
WernerO QUOTE (zaentzpantz @ Feb 20 2012, 12:02) ... Feb 20 2012, 15:22
greynol Have we conveniently forgotten that CD players com... Feb 20 2012, 17:05
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 20 2012, 11:05) Have... Feb 20 2012, 18:19
icstm QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 20 2012, 16:05) Have... Feb 20 2012, 17:19
saratoga QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 20 2012, 11:19) QUOTE ... Feb 20 2012, 17:35
xnor QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 20 2012, 17:19) In fac... Feb 20 2012, 17:30
greynol Right, I see that we were talking about removal of... Feb 20 2012, 17:33
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wakibaki QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 22 2012, 14:13) ...the... Feb 22 2012, 15:49
xnor QUOTE (icstm @ Feb 22 2012, 15:13) My und... Feb 22 2012, 15:41
icstm [In response to the above post:] That is what I wa... Feb 23 2012, 11:00
greynol Let's keep this on-topic, please. Feb 23 2012, 22:17
Prince Of All Saiyans Magical thinking at its best...
http://www.musica... Feb 24 2012, 17:10
2Bdecided QUOTE (Prince Of All Saiyans @ Feb 24 2012, 1... Feb 24 2012, 18:34
Ethan Winer ^^^ LOL at this in particular:
"a new 66 bit... Feb 24 2012, 18:36
pdq It's funny, the rest of their specs seem reaso... Feb 24 2012, 18:45
icstm We now have an ANSWER!! Mar 7 2012, 15:21![]() ![]() |
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