Cleaning up 78 transfers |
Cleaning up 78 transfers |
Feb 24 2012, 01:05
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Hi all,
I'm taking a 78 recording (and several others that I'm transferring) and trying to clean it up. I'm capturing the audio with Audacity at 32-bit IEEE float, as a stereo recording from a 78 stylus on my turntable at 45 then changing the speed, finishing it off with inverting the RIAA curve. My question is about cleaning up from this point forward understanding of course that one method simply won't work in every case. I have Audacity, Sound Forge, DeNoise and ClickRepair. I've tried following this to a certain degree but I have no way of knowing if there's something I'm missing, if it's out of date, if there's a better way, etc. Mastering, I'm ok with. It's just the cleaning part I want to know with the aim of archiving these transfers. Any thoughts? |
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Mar 6 2012, 10:44
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Just so you know, there are more than a few phono preamps for 78s on the market. Some will provide just about every, if not every, EQ ever used on commercial pressings, some are limited to just the most common EQs.
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Mar 6 2012, 18:09
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Just so you know, there are more than a few phono preamps for 78s on the market. Some will provide just about every, if not every, EQ ever used on commercial pressings, some are limited to just the most common EQs. Thanks! That's really cool but I couldn't BEGIN to discern which brands were good, how to compare one from the other, etc. Plus if the curves can be applied digitally in Sound Forge or Audacity or something, it would be cheaper for me.
This post has been edited by tinpanalley: Mar 6 2012, 18:23 |
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tinpanalley Cleaning up 78 transfers Feb 24 2012, 01:05
DVDdoug Fortunately, I've never tried cleaning-up a 78... Feb 24 2012, 03:18
cliveb QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Feb 24 2012, 02:18) cliv... Feb 24 2012, 09:27
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 24 2012, 00:05) ... Feb 24 2012, 11:33
tinpanalley Thanks guys,
cliveb, very cool to hear from you di... Feb 24 2012, 22:32
tinpanalley Hey guys,
I've got my wires straightened now. ... Feb 27 2012, 23:46
cliveb QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 27 2012, 22:46) ... Feb 28 2012, 09:58
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 27 2012, 22:46) ... Feb 28 2012, 11:19
tinpanalley I sometimes feel like I should have been a sound t... Feb 28 2012, 19:31
botface I cleaned up several hundred 78's a few years ... Feb 28 2012, 20:27
tinpanalley What's the general thinking with clean-up of s... Feb 28 2012, 21:45
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 28 2012, 12:45) ... Feb 29 2012, 05:02
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 28 2012, 20:45) ... Feb 29 2012, 10:13
tinpanalley That could get tricky with copyrights. Wouldn... Feb 29 2012, 09:33
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Feb 29 2012, 08:33) ... Feb 29 2012, 10:14
2Bdecided I've attached a typical early 1930s UK 78.
Po... Feb 29 2012, 17:33
bandpass Used to listen to this 78 (and the B-side) lots wh... Feb 29 2012, 18:04
2Bdecided QUOTE (bandpass @ Feb 29 2012, 17:04) Use... Feb 29 2012, 18:17
tinpanalley Ugh... I transferred a bunch of 78s the other nigh... Mar 2 2012, 22:32
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 2 2012, 21:32) t... Mar 3 2012, 19:52
markanini Definitely not subtle. Check this out though: http... Mar 3 2012, 21:10
tinpanalley QUOTE (markanini @ Mar 3 2012, 15:10) Che... Mar 6 2012, 08:08
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 6 2012, 08:08) Q... Mar 6 2012, 20:57
tinpanalley Wow... gets pretty intense. Ultimately, these are ... Mar 6 2012, 21:34
tinpanalley Am I crazy to think that when I invert the RIAA cu... Mar 5 2012, 01:42
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 5 2012, 01:42) A... Mar 5 2012, 02:57
tinpanalley I'm not understanding how to create my own cur... Mar 5 2012, 03:24
botface I'm sure your instinct is to try to recover th... Mar 5 2012, 10:15
tinpanalley QUOTE (botface @ Mar 5 2012, 04:15) Ultim... Mar 5 2012, 19:47
botface QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 5 2012, 18:47) Q... Mar 5 2012, 21:11
Porcus Except the oldest, the 78's had some EQ applie... Mar 5 2012, 20:43
2Bdecided QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 5 2012, 19:43) Except... Mar 7 2012, 11:22
2Bdecided You didn't follow the links posted earlier... ... Mar 7 2012, 11:26
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 7 2012, 05:26) You... Mar 7 2012, 21:08
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 7 2012, 20:08) Q... Mar 8 2012, 11:23
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 8 2012, 05:23) ... Mar 8 2012, 20:10
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 8 2012, 19:10) Q... Mar 8 2012, 23:39
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 8 2012, 17:39) Why... Mar 9 2012, 04:28
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 9 2012, 03:28) I... Mar 9 2012, 12:44
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 9 2012, 06:44) So,... Mar 9 2012, 19:49
DVDdoug QUOTE I'm doing some Capitol 78s from the 40... Mar 7 2012, 23:44
tinpanalley QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Mar 7 2012, 17:44) So, I... Mar 8 2012, 00:02
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 7 2012, 23:02) a... Mar 8 2012, 11:30
Porcus Now remember that the OP did the recording at 45rp... Mar 7 2012, 23:57
Porcus You should of course keep the original file (both ... Mar 8 2012, 00:23
tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 7 2012, 18:23) You sh... Mar 8 2012, 03:17
knutinh QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 8 2012, 01:23) You sh... Mar 8 2012, 11:32
DVDdoug QUOTE It's a bit to me like when a classic fil... Mar 8 2012, 21:47
tinpanalley That, at least, is adding to the atmosphere of a c... Mar 8 2012, 22:24
Porcus (Mal)apropos: is there is any reason for applying ... Mar 9 2012, 13:21
2Bdecided On this page...
http://www.rfwilmut.clara.net/repr... Mar 9 2012, 23:08
tinpanalley I just heard that whole post in the voice of Bened... Mar 10 2012, 08:38
Porcus Yes, but:
- 30's and 40's recordings were... Mar 10 2012, 14:03
tinpanalley Ok, so with 2bdecided's help I'll be doing... Mar 12 2012, 20:54
2Bdecided Answering your previous point...
I don't know... Mar 12 2012, 21:13
pdq Doing click repair after step 1 also means that yo... Mar 12 2012, 21:14
tinpanalley QUOTE (pdq @ Mar 12 2012, 15:14) Doing cl... Mar 12 2012, 22:18
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 12 2012, 21:18) ... Mar 13 2012, 11:02
2Bdecided I'd fix the speed first, then run it through e... Mar 12 2012, 21:17
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 12 2012, 15:17) I... Mar 12 2012, 21:31
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 12 2012, 21:31) ... Mar 12 2012, 22:03
2Bdecided QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 12 2012, 21:03) QUOTE... Mar 13 2012, 10:56
Porcus QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 13 2012, 10:56) Eq... Mar 13 2012, 11:12
pdq The music and clicks would both be moved to higher... Mar 13 2012, 00:49
tinpanalley Ok so FINALLY cleaned everything up but unfortunat... Mar 13 2012, 04:19
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 12 2012, 19:19) ... Mar 13 2012, 04:57
2Bdecided Equaliser claims to get the phase right too, thoug... Mar 13 2012, 12:45
tinpanalley Ok, I'll increase levels on my own without cli... Mar 13 2012, 20:06
2Bdecided Yes, I usually find the "correct" curve ... Mar 14 2012, 11:49
Porcus (I am still a bit surprised that I don't find ... Mar 14 2012, 11:57
tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 14 2012, 05:57) (I am... Mar 14 2012, 18:20
botface FWIW when I was doing my major "78 project... Mar 14 2012, 19:52
2Bdecided QUOTE (botface @ Mar 14 2012, 18:52) FWIW... Mar 14 2012, 20:38
botface QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 14 2012, 19:38) QU... Mar 15 2012, 19:36
tinpanalley I'm gonna get in touch with someone I know in ... Mar 15 2012, 20:40
2Bdecided QUOTE (botface @ Mar 15 2012, 18:36) I do... Mar 19 2012, 15:45
botface QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 19 2012, 14:45) QU... Mar 20 2012, 10:24
tinpanalley QUOTE (botface @ Mar 20 2012, 04:24) ... Mar 20 2012, 15:44
tinpanalley Just double checking.... it's RIAA inverting A... Mar 15 2012, 21:10
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 15 2012, 21:10) ... Mar 16 2012, 02:07
tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 15 2012, 20:07) QUOTE... Mar 16 2012, 02:34
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 02:34) ... Mar 16 2012, 13:18
tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 16 2012, 07:18) (Had ... Mar 16 2012, 15:57
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 15:57) ... Mar 16 2012, 16:33
tinpanalley Can't thank all you guys enough for your help.... Mar 16 2012, 21:08
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 21:08) ... Mar 16 2012, 21:21
tinpanalley Better before inverting the RIAA curve. Trust me, ... Mar 16 2012, 21:31
Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 21:31) ... Mar 16 2012, 21:49
tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 16 2012, 15:49) ... t... Mar 16 2012, 22:03
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 17:03) ... Mar 19 2012, 13:07

tinpanalley QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Mar 19 2012, 07... Mar 19 2012, 16:10

Porcus QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 19 2012, 16:10) ... Mar 19 2012, 19:14

tinpanalley QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 19 2012, 13:14) Now s... Mar 19 2012, 19:34
2Bdecided QUOTE (tinpanalley @ Mar 16 2012, 21:03) ... Mar 19 2012, 15:33
2Bdecided Go on, post a raw capture (45rpm with RIAA intact,... Mar 19 2012, 19:05
tinpanalley Am I perhaps doing something wrong with Equalizer?... Mar 20 2012, 22:40
2Bdecided It doesn't change the speed. It can apply the ... Mar 21 2012, 10:11
tinpanalley QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 21 2012, 04:11) It... Mar 21 2012, 17:39![]() ![]() |
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