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missing frequencies/sounds >16kHz using lame 3.99.4-64
shmick23
post Feb 26 2012, 14:51
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hi,

i recorded some vinyl using Goldwave 5.25 under win 7 pro x64 and saved the files as a 24/96 un-compressed Windows Wave file.

i had a look at the frequency representation in Adobe Soundbooth CS5 and noted that the max. freq. attained was around ~27kHz (which seems acceptable given my sound card, cartridge and phono stage).

i then compressed the file using Foobar2000 1.1.9 to a lame mp3 with the settings:

Audio
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Duration : 5mn 51s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 282 Kbps
Minimum bit rate : 32.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 11.8 MiB (100%)
Writing library : LAME3.99r
Encoding settings : -m j -V 0 -q 0 -lowpass 24 --vbr-new -b 32

having a look at the frequency representation again in Soundbooth showed a reduction/cutoff above 16kHz for certain sounds (not all).

Why is this and how (if possible) could I retain these upper frequencies ?
I assumed since the mp3 is a 48kHz file each channel should contain up to 24kHz sounds - from the graph it does, but only for certain sounds, and others are removed >16kHz

Also, is it a default setting by either foobar/lame to use lowpass by default ?

i've uploaded some screen grabs for visualisation:










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[JAZ]
post Feb 26 2012, 18:27
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Sorry for the confusion about --vbr-new. I thought that it was written in the comment field, and not guessed.

Now, extending on lvqcl's comment, --bitwidth is only necessary for raw audio (foobar sends .wav, so that's not raw) and the format setting should be "lossy".
This one is just a hint for foobar to know what the codec will do (so it is not dangerous, but better to have it to its correct value, which is lossy).

You were given a link for more info about the ATH, i guess that's enough but as a simple explanation, the ear is not equally sensitive to all frequencies and the ATH is the representation of how sensitive we are to them.


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