missing frequencies/sounds >16kHz using lame 3.99.4-64 |
missing frequencies/sounds >16kHz using lame 3.99.4-64 |
Feb 26 2012, 14:51
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Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 11-September 11 Member No.: 93636 |
hi,
i recorded some vinyl using Goldwave 5.25 under win 7 pro x64 and saved the files as a 24/96 un-compressed Windows Wave file. i had a look at the frequency representation in Adobe Soundbooth CS5 and noted that the max. freq. attained was around ~27kHz (which seems acceptable given my sound card, cartridge and phono stage). i then compressed the file using Foobar2000 1.1.9 to a lame mp3 with the settings: Audio Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 3 Mode : Joint stereo Duration : 5mn 51s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 282 Kbps Minimum bit rate : 32.0 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 11.8 MiB (100%) Writing library : LAME3.99r Encoding settings : -m j -V 0 -q 0 -lowpass 24 --vbr-new -b 32 having a look at the frequency representation again in Soundbooth showed a reduction/cutoff above 16kHz for certain sounds (not all). Why is this and how (if possible) could I retain these upper frequencies ? I assumed since the mp3 is a 48kHz file each channel should contain up to 24kHz sounds - from the graph it does, but only for certain sounds, and others are removed >16kHz Also, is it a default setting by either foobar/lame to use lowpass by default ? i've uploaded some screen grabs for visualisation: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Feb 27 2012, 20:40
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Group: Members Posts: 2117 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Silicon Valley Member No.: 46454 |
QUOTE So, if this is a limitation in the LAME codec itself I can live with that - if the result is 'transparent' to my ears in real life i don't mind - i was curious why the cutoff occurs... MP3 is lossy compression, it has to throw-away some information. If you "force" LAME to keep certain information (that you probably can't hear) it will have to throw-away some other information (that you might be able to hear). |
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shmick23 missing frequencies/sounds >16kHz using lame 3.99.4-64 Feb 26 2012, 14:51
[JAZ] What you see in action is the "ATH". As ... Feb 26 2012, 15:54
shmick23 gracias por sus comentarios,
what is ATH ?
So, i... Feb 26 2012, 16:09
tpijag With foobar2000 you can add any number of a custom... Feb 26 2012, 16:20
Gecko ATH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_thresho... Feb 26 2012, 16:59
shmick23 these are my settings in foobar:
and these sett... Feb 26 2012, 17:02
lvqcl "--bitwidth 24" is useless, "Format... Feb 26 2012, 17:18
[JAZ] Sorry for the confusion about --vbr-new. I thought... Feb 26 2012, 18:27
Kohlrabi To assess the quality of a perceptual (lossy) enco... Feb 27 2012, 21:50
shmick23 Jaz: thank you & noted for bitwidth and raw fi... Feb 28 2012, 17:17
dhromed QUOTE (shmick23 @ Feb 28 2012, 17:17) pri... Feb 28 2012, 17:55
greynol It will behoove you to follow Kohlrabi's advic... Feb 28 2012, 17:31
shmick23 QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 28 2012, 17:31) It w... Feb 28 2012, 17:42
pdq It's not so much a matter of throwing out othe... Feb 28 2012, 17:43![]() ![]() |
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