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trail
post Mar 29 2012, 19:08
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Hey! I'm a newbie around these forums, but hopefully I'll be around quite a bit. I really like the community here, and hope I can contribute in the future. But enough introduction, here's the interesting stuff:

I work for a college radio station, and we've decided to undertake the rather ambitious project of digitizing the CDs we've acquired over the years. This is a pretty monumental undertaking, so I'm looking to make this as painless and quick as possible. We have a very rough approximation of about 30,000 CDs that we're looking to convert to digital files, and it's my job to work out many of the more technical aspects of the project.

The problem with being a college radio station is that we're on a pretty limited budget. We can't afford any sort of robot or anything like that to help the process along, nor can we afford any sort of service, so we're stuck doing it ourselves. Thankfully, we have a bunch of people willing to put the time and effort in. We also aren't terribly picky about getting every rip totally 100% perfect. But I've done a fair bit of research, and here's the kind of plan I had in mind:

Ideally, we have one pretty decent quad-core desktop that we're planning to outfit with four CD drives. We have software that allows us to rip multiple discs at once to V0 MP3s which are stored on a small RAID 1 array inside the computer. I've done some informal ripping tests, and have narrowed down the two pieces of software that seem to work best to fre:ac and dBpoweramp. I have also tried EAC and simply ripping with MediaMonkey, but freac and dBpoweramp seemed the most efficient and easy to use. Now, if I decide to use one of these pieces of software (if anyone has any suggestions, I'm 100% open to them!) how can I configure them to make them as painless as possible? Would using multiple drives be an option? I found very little information about software that provided ripping from multiple drives simultaneously, so I'm assuming this is not a common feature. If not, would using different computers be our best bet? If anyone has any other suggestions about ripping multiple discs at the same time or other ways to improve efficiency then that would probably make my life much easier.

thanks for your time!
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LosMintos
post Mar 30 2012, 14:28
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Sorry, I didn't read all posts carefully, nevertheless, let me add/emphasize some points.
  • You should insist on accurate, secure and lossless rips! You'll only do it once, do it right!
  • I've no experience with real batch rippers, but ripped a lot of CDs on ordinary PCs equipped with two CD-Rom drives. You will just open two instances of dbpoweramp or EAC and it's just fine. However, this is limited in terms of keeping a clear view on open CD cases on the desk and open program instances on the screen. With four drives you'll not gain much increase in over all speed, IMHO. The computer will wait for you (rather than you waiting for the computer).
  • Metadata is a crucial issue. Databases are not correct anyway and every n-th CD will not be found. Then you'll have to enter the data by yourself, the most time consuming step.
If you can't effort a batch ripper, you probably can distribute the job to many volunteers. In advance you have to agree on a standard:
  • codec
  • folder hierarchy
  • tagging scheme incl. cover images
  • what to do with unknown or erroneous CDs
When ripping manually I'll pre-sort a bunch of CDs: regular albums, sampler, soundtracks etc. This reflects my folder hierarchy and speeds up ripping in my case. You could consider things like this, when distributing to volunteers.

I see, you're not likely to give CDs away (I fully understand!). That way, a large room with many computers equipped with max. 2 drives each will help more than few computers with a lot of drives each. Just my humble opinion ;-). Such a set up will likely be outperformed by a real batch ripper. In addition a network storage might be interesting for you. And a scanner for missing cover art.

Just my thoughts, hopefully of some help for you :-)
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post Mar 30 2012, 16:38
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QUOTE (LosMintos @ Mar 30 2012, 15:28) *
You will just open two instances of dbpoweramp or EAC and it's just fine.


Be careful. My experience with dBpoweramp is that it might from time to time switch to the most-recently-used drive. Probably not without telling me, but I have overlooked it (and gotten a few rips with absolutely wrong content). I don't think it is intended to have concurrent versions open.


QUOTE (LosMintos @ Mar 30 2012, 15:28) *
pre-sort a bunch of CDs: regular albums, sampler, soundtracks etc.


Also:
- remasters, if you want to have them distinguished. The metadata sources do not.
- promos. Some of them have beeb sounds and talking interfering with the music.
- I keep classical music away from the rest -- or rather: music sorted by composer, apart from music sorted by performer.


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- trail   Help ripping ~30,000 CDs   Mar 29 2012, 19:08
- - frozenspeed   I would use cueripper & foobar2000 but that...   Mar 29 2012, 19:11
|- - trail   QUOTE (frozenspeed @ Mar 29 2012, 13:11) ...   Mar 29 2012, 19:13
- - Dario   What about the dBpoweramp batch ripper? Is there a...   Mar 29 2012, 19:23
|- - garym   QUOTE (Dario @ Mar 29 2012, 13:23) What a...   Mar 29 2012, 21:50
|- - Roseval   You might try running multiple instances of dbPowe...   Mar 29 2012, 22:06
||- - trail   QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 29 2012, 17:06) You ...   Mar 29 2012, 22:24
|- - trail   QUOTE (garym @ Mar 29 2012, 16:50) QUOTE ...   Mar 29 2012, 22:36
- - DVDdoug   QUOTE Ideally, we have one pretty decent quad-core...   Mar 29 2012, 23:33
|- - trail   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Mar 29 2012, 18:33) QUOT...   Mar 30 2012, 01:52
- - Destroid   OP: I would concur with others to consider lossles...   Mar 30 2012, 00:08
- - dumdidum   i second the suggestion of ripping to a lossless f...   Mar 30 2012, 08:56
- - Porcus   I ripped about 7000 CDs to FLAC using dBpoweramp, ...   Mar 30 2012, 10:07
- - LosMintos   Sorry, I didn't read all posts carefully, neve...   Mar 30 2012, 14:28
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (LosMintos @ Mar 30 2012, 15:28) Yo...   Mar 30 2012, 16:38
- - pdq   On the cost of storing lossless files - consider t...   Mar 30 2012, 16:40
- - spoon   >My experience with dBpoweramp is that it might...   Mar 30 2012, 16:41
- - trail   First off, I want to say thanks so much to everyon...   Mar 30 2012, 17:44
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (trail @ Mar 30 2012, 18:44) If at ...   Mar 30 2012, 20:23
|- - trail   Bad news, our budget means we probably won't b...   Apr 2 2012, 01:42
|- - phofman   QUOTE (trail @ Apr 2 2012, 01:42) Bad new...   Apr 2 2012, 11:05
|- - phofman   My experience with those SiliconImage SATA control...   Apr 2 2012, 11:22
|- - Destroid   QUOTE (trail @ Apr 2 2012, 00:42) Bad new...   Apr 4 2012, 11:54
|- - trail   QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 4 2012, 06:54) QUOT...   Apr 5 2012, 20:41
|- - shadowking   QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 4 2012, 21:54) QUOT...   Apr 6 2012, 15:50
- - .hx   Little side note - CD ripping is not digitizing.   Apr 2 2012, 03:06
- - spoon   Word of advice, if you want a stress free life, st...   Apr 2 2012, 09:49
- - Porcus   Since this is turning into a discussion of storage...   Apr 2 2012, 14:57
|- - rick.hughes   QUOTE (Porcus @ Apr 2 2012, 09:57) - RAID...   Apr 2 2012, 15:40
|- - phofman   We have been using linux raid in our company for a...   Apr 2 2012, 15:57
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (phofman @ Apr 2 2012, 16:57) the r...   Apr 3 2012, 16:29
- - LosMintos   QUOTE (spoon @ Mar 30 2012, 17:41) The la...   Apr 2 2012, 15:48
- - krabapple   Nothing to add except again: go lossless if you c...   Apr 2 2012, 16:30
- - pdq   For backup I would suggest AudioSAFE. If you never...   Apr 2 2012, 16:39
|- - garym   QUOTE (pdq @ Apr 2 2012, 10:39) For backu...   Apr 2 2012, 22:25
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (garym @ Apr 2 2012, 22:25) QUOTE (...   Apr 3 2012, 10:42
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Apr 3 2012, 11:42) If the...   Apr 3 2012, 17:52
- - rick.hughes   The original CDs could also be considered the back...   Apr 2 2012, 19:12
|- - phofman   QUOTE (rick.hughes @ Apr 2 2012, 19:12) T...   Apr 2 2012, 19:25
- - spoon   Your deletions are kept on audiosafe (the last cha...   Apr 3 2012, 19:33
- - mixminus1   @Destroid: Yes, the OP's budget is limited, a...   Apr 5 2012, 21:06
|- - trail   QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Apr 5 2012, 16:06) @De...   Apr 9 2012, 04:20
- - JJZolx   If the budget is so limited that the station can...   Apr 6 2012, 01:43
- - Porcus   OK, so OP cannot afford drives enough for lossless...   Apr 7 2012, 02:58
- - gorob   I second dbpoweramp as well, it works great for ri...   Mar 11 2014, 03:16
- - JJZolx   I wonder how this project turned out. Or if it eve...   Mar 11 2014, 04:01
- - eahm   30,000 discs...I can't even imagine that many,...   Mar 11 2014, 05:43
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (eahm @ Mar 11 2014, 05:43) It must...   Mar 11 2014, 08:44
- - kennedyb4   Hi. I would like to add my advice to those suggest...   Mar 11 2014, 13:10
- - yourlord   This thread is 2 years old and the original poster...   Mar 11 2014, 18:23
- - eahm   QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 11 2014, 00:44) Yep -...   Mar 11 2014, 23:46


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