Am I correct that decompressing to WAV cannot reverse loss of quality?, [TOS #6: was "mp3 to wav quality" in General Audio] |
Am I correct that decompressing to WAV cannot reverse loss of quality?, [TOS #6: was "mp3 to wav quality" in General Audio] |
Apr 18 2012, 14:59
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Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 18-April 12 Member No.: 98943 |
Hi I have just used winamp to convert some mp3 files to wav for recording to cd (as the tracks are only available on Amazon as mp3 currently). Wav's are 7 or 8 times the size of mp3's due to the compression. When you decompress to wav can you only ever get the quality that was present in the mp3. That is when the mp3 was created from the original source some loss of quality is inevitable and decompressing to wav presumably cannot reverse that loss of quality so my wav files presumably cannot sound as good as on a purchased CD. Can someone confirm this is about right or have I missed something? |
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Apr 18 2012, 18:56
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Winamp Developer Group: Developer Posts: 662 Joined: 17-July 05 From: Ashburn, VA Member No.: 23375 |
Decompressing an MP3 to WAV is the exact same process as playing back an MP3. You will not get back any of the original "lost" audio data. It's gone for good.
The only benefit of using Winamp to convert to do the WAV conversion will be, as Greynol pointed out, that Winamp will properly trim the lead-in and lead-out silence added by the encoding and decoding process (so called "gapless handling"). Very few decoders do this properly, and it is unlikely that your burner software is capable of it. |
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Apr 19 2012, 11:31
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Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 28-October 11 Member No.: 94764 |
Decompressing an MP3 to WAV is the exact same process as playing back an MP3. You will not get back any of the original "lost" audio data. It's gone for good. The only benefit of using Winamp to convert to do the WAV conversion will be, as Greynol pointed out, that Winamp will properly trim the lead-in and lead-out silence added by the encoding and decoding process (so called "gapless handling"). Very few decoders do this properly, and it is unlikely that your burner software is capable of it. But how does a decoder get along with the overdrive that is there with most mp3's when it converts to WAV? |
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Apr 19 2012, 15:25
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But how does a decoder get along with the overdrive that is there with most mp3's when it converts to WAV? What you mean to say is decoded samples that clip when decompressed to fixed-point. Can you demonstrate that this is audible with just one single piece of music that you would actually want to hear on your stereo? If not then this is really a non-issue! -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Paul77 Am I correct that decompressing to WAV cannot reverse loss of quality? Apr 18 2012, 14:59
Kohlrabi That's about right, though good good MP3 encod... Apr 18 2012, 15:10
JimH QUOTE (Paul77 @ Apr 18 2012, 08:59) I hav... Apr 18 2012, 16:31
greynol If such software doesn't honor gapless decodin... Apr 18 2012, 16:39
Paul77 I was using XP CD burner software so I don't t... Apr 18 2012, 16:51
dhromed QUOTE (Paul77 @ Apr 18 2012, 16:51) I was... Apr 18 2012, 18:39
Paul77 QUOTE (dhromed @ Apr 18 2012, 18:39) QUOT... Apr 19 2012, 16:32
db1989 Notwithstanding that being pretty obvious, the poi... Apr 19 2012, 16:36

greynol To add to dB1989's post, the mp3 must be compa... Apr 19 2012, 17:52

Paul77 Ok so the idea is to create an mp3 from the lossle... Apr 20 2012, 13:37

soulsearchingsun http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=ABX
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db1989 QUOTE (Paul77 @ Apr 20 2012, 13:37) Ok so... Apr 20 2012, 14:15
pdq QUOTE (Paul77 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:32) Have ... Apr 19 2012, 17:02
greynol That doesn't sound like it would be a proper a... Apr 18 2012, 17:32
db1989 . . . because any compressed format (whether lossy... Apr 18 2012, 18:55
Gainless QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 19 2012, 15:25) QUOT... Apr 21 2012, 12:05
DonP With the right burner software, feeding it the mp3... Apr 19 2012, 11:45
db1989 That is nonsensical. Notwithstanding that any such... Apr 21 2012, 12:21
lvqcl What do you mean by "the "sound" of... Apr 21 2012, 12:23
Gainless I actually thought that the mp3 algorithm can make... Apr 21 2012, 23:59
splice QUOTE (Gainless @ Apr 21 2012, 15:59) ...... Apr 22 2012, 00:30
greynol QUOTE (Gainless @ Apr 21 2012, 15:59) I a... Apr 22 2012, 04:07
lvqcl There is no clipping distortion in an MP3 file. Cl... Apr 22 2012, 00:38![]() ![]() |
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