iPod Classic vs. FiiO E7, Cirrus Logic vs. Wolfson |
iPod Classic vs. FiiO E7, Cirrus Logic vs. Wolfson |
Apr 26 2012, 14:26
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There's a lot of hype in audiophile forums about how the new iPod Classic (with a Cirrus Logic CS42L55 DAC) sounds noticeably worse than older iPods (with a Wolfson WM8758 DAC). So I decided to compare my iPod Classic (with the Cirrus Logic DAC) to my FiiO E7, which has a Wolfson WM8740 DAC (with better specs than the WM8758).
I don't currently have a good soundcard with line inputs, so I had to use an old laptop to make the recordings, pending something better. I used Audacity (16 bit / 44.1 kHz) and recorded the iPod via its Line Out Dock and the E7 via its headphone out, both with the same 16/44.1 WAV file as a source. The song is Revenge! by Spoon, from The WIRED CD: Rip. Sample. Mash. Share., a compilation of songs licensed under Creative Commons "Sampling Plus", that can be legally shared. I aligned the recordings and volume-matched them by running wavegain on them. Download from DropBox: A.flac, B.flac, C.flac. C.flac is the reference file that was played back on both the iPod and the E7 when recording. I'm reluctant to say which is which regarding A.flac and B.flac, because aside from ABX logs, I'd like to know which file people prefer, if any. This is the first time I do something like this, so let me know if my methodology is valid or if it needs an adjustment. The big question I have, is whether my recordings are good enough for the purpose of comparing the two devices, or if I need a better sound card. -------------------- Save my friend from going homeless: http://outpost.fr/url/308w
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Apr 26 2012, 17:41
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There's a lot of hype in audiophile forums about how the new iPod Classic (with a Cirrus Logic CS42L55 DAC) sounds noticeably worse than older iPods (with a Wolfson WM8758 DAC). I've never heard that, and frankly its kind of a dumb thing to believe given that the WM8758 wasn't very good due to rolled off bass in the older iPods. I've actually got some old test results here from mine: ![]() That is not very good by modern standards. This is the first time I do something like this, so let me know if my methodology is valid or if it needs an adjustment. The big question I have, is whether my recordings are good enough for the purpose of comparing the two devices, or if I need a better sound card. Listening tests can be difficult under these conditions. Have you considered just using a tool like RMAA to measure distortion and frequency response while driving a load? Generally speaking, I think most people will accept that a device with moderately rolled off bass (the ipod 5G) is not doing as good as one with correct bass (the 6/7G). |
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Apr 26 2012, 17:58
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1064 Joined: 4-May 04 From: France Member No.: 13875 |
I've never heard that, and frankly its kind of a dumb thing to believe given that the WM8758 wasn't very good due to rolled off bass in the older iPods. Note that audiophiles usually plug their headphones into an external amp, connected to the iPod via its line out, thus bypassing its internal amp. I don't know how much of a difference it makes regarding that issue. Have you considered just using a tool like RMAA to measure distortion and frequency response while driving a load? Unfortunately I can't install Windows on my old laptop (it doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, and I don't have a license). I do have Windows 7 on my new laptop, so it's something I could do if I decided to invest in a good USB device with a line in. -------------------- Save my friend from going homeless: http://outpost.fr/url/308w
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skamp iPod Classic vs. FiiO E7 Apr 26 2012, 14:26

saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 12:58) QUOTE ... Apr 26 2012, 18:09

skamp QUOTE (saratoga @ Apr 26 2012, 19:09) Lin... Apr 26 2012, 18:27

saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 13:27) QUOTE ... Apr 26 2012, 18:59

skamp QUOTE (saratoga @ Apr 26 2012, 19:59) No,... Apr 26 2012, 21:06

saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 16:06) [*]My ... Apr 26 2012, 21:25

skamp QUOTE (saratoga @ Apr 26 2012, 22:25) Thu... Apr 26 2012, 21:51

saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 16:51) QUOTE ... Apr 26 2012, 21:56
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (saratoga @ Apr 26 2012, 12:41) QUO... Apr 26 2012, 19:35
Kohlrabi While I got the impression that B has clearer high... Apr 26 2012, 17:50
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 09:26) [compl... Apr 26 2012, 19:31
saratoga You may also be interested in these measurements f... Apr 26 2012, 21:34
skamp More like:
DAC > headphone amp > QC15 or XB... Apr 26 2012, 22:05
saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 17:05) I thus... Apr 26 2012, 22:08
skamp As I said in the other thread, I found a much bett... Apr 27 2012, 10:12![]() ![]() |
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