RMAA results for iPod Classic, Galaxy Nexus, FiiO E7 |
RMAA results for iPod Classic, Galaxy Nexus, FiiO E7 |
Apr 26 2012, 20:58
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Here are the RMAA results for the iPod Classic (2009), the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and the FiiO E7. The iPod was tested via it's Line Out Dock, as well as its headphone out, unloaded, and loaded with Sony MDR-XB700 headphones (24 ohms). The Galaxy Nexus and E7 were tested via their headphone out, loaded and unloaded. Here's a comparison between the 3, loaded with the headphones.
Audiophiles always say that the iPod's LOD outputs a "cleaner" signal than its headphone out; if I'm reading the values and graphs right, that seems correct. I couldn't say whether the difference is audible; one would have to also test the external headphone amplifier that would be connected to the LOD. Overall the E7 seems superior, while the iPod is a pretty close second in some aspects, especially if you consider the LOD results. Of note is the significantly worse stereo crosstalk result from the Galaxy Nexus. Edit: I used an old laptop for the recordings. I'm considering investing in a decent USB device. If I do get one, I'll run RMAA again. This post has been edited by skamp: Apr 26 2012, 21:09 -------------------- Save my friend from going homeless: http://outpost.fr/url/308w
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Apr 27 2012, 12:30
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And, lo and behold, my wonderful Asus N75SF laptop with "Audio by Bang & Olufsen ICEpower". Seems legit!
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Apr 29 2012, 21:28
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And, lo and behold, my wonderful Asus N75SF laptop with "Audio by Bang & Olufsen ICEpower". Seems legit! Looks like you should inspect that one for any misimprovements present in the processing chain. Its sound implementation does not seem to be that great, but there is definitely something else going on that dominates the results. I'd say there's EQ and dynamic compression in use, presumably for better speaker audio. ICEpower would be referring to Class-D speaker amps. BTW, measuring DAPs at anything else than 44.1 kHz is a potentially risky business. At least keep in mind that sample rate does matter. I still have two of the aforementioned Terratec cards in use. As you found out, they are quite flexible when it comes to recording levels. They apparently were a co-development with ESI/Audiotrak at the time. I'd need to reverse engineer the headphone amp at some point, which I am told uses a Class B buffer (I never liked the result with anything less than 300 ohms much, though according to measurements coupling caps may be the bigger issue). This post has been edited by stephan_g: Apr 29 2012, 21:36 |
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skamp RMAA results for iPod Classic, Galaxy Nexus, FiiO E7 Apr 26 2012, 20:58
saratoga You said in the other thread that you've got t... Apr 26 2012, 21:29
skamp The volume cap can't be removed. How does the ... Apr 26 2012, 21:37
saratoga QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 26 2012, 16:37) The vo... Apr 26 2012, 21:52
skamp Thanks. I guess I'll just suck it up and buy a... Apr 26 2012, 22:16
skamp Well, I dusted off my old PC and tried three diffe... Apr 27 2012, 09:41
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 27 2012, 04:41) Well, ... Apr 27 2012, 12:16
saratoga Could you put those galaxy nexus results back up? ... Apr 30 2012, 17:06
skamp I deleted the old results, there were obviously of... Apr 30 2012, 19:00
saratoga What happened with the frequency response on the G... Apr 30 2012, 19:02
skamp The GN always had a slight treble roll-off. I test... Apr 30 2012, 19:09
saratoga You must be right. I'm probably confusing thi... Apr 30 2012, 19:40
skamp Results with Denon AH-D1100 headphones (32 ohms) a... Apr 30 2012, 20:59
skamp I installed Rockbox on my iPod last night. I updat... May 2 2012, 11:21
nevermind Those measurements look a bit strange for the ipod... May 4 2012, 03:44
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (nevermind @ May 3 2012, 22:44) Tho... May 8 2012, 13:39
skamp All tests were run on battery. Note that the lobes... May 4 2012, 10:12
stephan_g These lobes seem to be an artifact introduced by R... May 5 2012, 12:51
skamp I got an EMU 0204 USB and made new measurements. I... Dec 7 2012, 09:46
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (skamp @ Dec 7 2012, 03:46) I got a... Dec 7 2012, 15:05
skamp On second thought, I'm not sure my stereo spli... Dec 8 2012, 23:10
saratoga Crosstalk depends on current, so if you drive a hi... Dec 8 2012, 23:33
IgorC Skamp,
Interesting measurements. I'm very sur... Dec 9 2012, 04:30
skamp Well, the EMU shows a 0.5 dB bump at 30 Hz, but th... Dec 9 2012, 11:51
skamp I followed these instructions and I measured the o... Dec 10 2012, 14:58
elfary This thread is really interesting for me.
As a us... Dec 14 2012, 11:05
skamp QUOTE (elfary @ Dec 14 2012, 11:05) Hence... Dec 14 2012, 18:03
elfary QUOTE (skamp @ Dec 14 2012, 18:03) QUOTE ... Dec 14 2012, 20:05
skamp QUOTE (elfary @ Dec 14 2012, 20:05) Thank... Dec 15 2012, 11:05
skamp I just got a Fuze+, it's pretty nice. I didn... Feb 25 2013, 22:19
mzil Thanks for posting that.
RegardingQUOTE There... Feb 25 2013, 23:45
skamp I realize that statement was ambiguous. Actually t... Feb 26 2013, 00:01
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (skamp @ Feb 25 2013, 18:01) I real... Feb 27 2013, 11:28
skamp QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 27 2013, 11... Feb 27 2013, 11:49
skamp It's strange that the noise and dynamic range ... Feb 26 2013, 00:08
saratoga Depending on what you are doing the voltage and cl... Feb 27 2013, 16:57![]() ![]() |
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