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Sabeque
post May 1 2012, 21:33
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Hi,

I've done a lot of searching on this topic and links keep pointing to this forum, so I believe the people here know their stuff. smile.gif

I apologize if this has been already addressed. I see similar questions and threads but not one for my specific situation. A lot of the data out there also seems to be very subjective, overwhelming and/or confusing. I also apologize for all of the info but I want to be thorough. smile.gif

Objective:
Rip CD collection in highest quality possible to lossless format (as yet undefined).

Factors:
~ I'm on a Mac and from what I've read XLD is the best option for accurate rips.
~ I want to be able to tag my files with Artist, Track name, etc. and want compatibility with iTunes without plugins or workarounds, so FLAC is not an option for me.
~ My music is mostly electronic and hip hop (not sure if this makes a difference when choosing the lossless format or conversion settings).
~ Larger file size is not a concern for me. Quality is. HD space is cheap.
~ Many of my CDs are mixed, i.e. gapless.

Purpose:
~ To have the highest quality digital backup possible. Many of my CDs are rare or irreplaceable promos. A few are also older and have begun to degrade. I want to convert everything now in the best quality I can so that I can save my music indefinitely.
~ After the CDs degrade more I need another source as close as possible to the original. Therefore I want to have lossless files that I can listen to or use whenever I need to create a lossy (MP3) version for my iPhone.

Questions:
~ When trying to convert some CDs in iTunes, some tracks were not converted at all because the CDs were degraded (no scratches, just old). I am hoping XLD can use error correction to "fix" these issues. Does XLD do this kind of correction?
~ I have heard ALAC may not be a good choice because of a theoretical "jitter" issue which compromises quality. Is this true?
~ Assuming AIFF is the best choice based on the factors above, what would be the best settings? I see a lot of tutorials for FLAC conversion but not for AIFF. When I checked the Wiki page comparing lossless formats I also did not see any AIFF reference there.
~ XLD has an option that says somethign about C2 error pointers (if your dirve supports this). How do I know if my drive supports this?
~ If you rip a gapless CD to multiple lossless tracks and then later convert those lossless files to mp3, can you join the tracks as one file when converting to mp3 so that you can remove the gaps? I've had problems playing gapless albums as multiple tracks in mp3 format on my iphone.

Thanks!
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Ron Jones
post May 1 2012, 21:53
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QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
I'm on a Mac and from what I've read XLD is the best option for accurate rips.

Probably, yes. It may or may not be better than iTunes for CDs in fair to good condition, however.

QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
My music is mostly electronic and hip hop (not sure if this makes a difference when choosing the lossless format or conversion settings).

Not really.

QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
Larger file size is not a concern for me. Quality is. HD space is cheap.

All lossless codecs maintain source quality.

QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
Does XLD do this kind of correction?

Yes.

QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
I have heard ALAC may not be a good choice because of a theoretical "jitter" issue which compromises quality. Is this true?

No. Did you by chance hear this at Computer Audiophile?
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greynol
post May 2 2012, 06:05
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QUOTE (Ron Jones @ May 1 2012, 13:53) *
QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) *
Does XLD do this kind of correction?

Yes

Please explain how as I am pretty certain the answer is actually no. Having the drive read data over and over again in the hopes that it delivers error-free data and then actually being able to identify that it is error-free does not mean the software is correcting errors.

Aside from possibly identifying and correcting synchronization errors (a problem pretty well solved in hardware a dozen years ago) and using some external repository like CTDB, ripping software is completely at the mercy of the drive.

This is not to say that iTunes has the same capabilities as XLD.

Moving along, who here has tried sbooth's Rip?

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- Sabeque   Best lossless ripping for Mac   May 1 2012, 21:33
- - db1989   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 21:33) I hav...   May 1 2012, 21:50
- - Ron Jones   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 13:33) I...   May 1 2012, 21:53
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Ron Jones @ May 1 2012, 21:53) QUO...   May 1 2012, 22:10
||- - Nessuno   QUOTE (db1989 @ May 1 2012, 23:10) Some m...   May 1 2012, 22:49
||- - db1989   I should have been clearer that I meant between en...   May 1 2012, 22:56
|- - ringenesherre   QUOTE (Ron Jones @ May 1 2012, 22:53) QUO...   May 1 2012, 22:16
||- - Sabeque   QUOTE (ringenesherre @ May 1 2012, 23:16)...   May 1 2012, 22:28
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Ron Jones @ May 1 2012, 13:53) QUO...   May 2 2012, 06:05
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (greynol @ May 2 2012, 07:05) Movin...   May 2 2012, 08:36
- - Sabeque   Wow you guys are fast! Thank you for respondin...   May 1 2012, 22:27
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 22:27) So fr...   May 1 2012, 22:33
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 23:27) ~ So ...   May 2 2012, 00:08
|- - Sabeque   QUOTE (Porcus @ May 2 2012, 01:08) QUOTE ...   May 2 2012, 15:33
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 2 2012, 16:33) ~ Wha...   May 2 2012, 18:00
- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 1 2012, 22:33) ~ Whe...   May 1 2012, 22:38
- - Sabeque   Thank you all very much for your insights and quic...   May 2 2012, 18:36
- - Sabeque   One more question: Let's say I rip a gapless ...   May 2 2012, 20:53
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 2 2012, 21:53) Let...   May 3 2012, 08:40
- - Sabeque   I've also just noticed on the wiki page about ...   May 2 2012, 21:14
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Sabeque @ May 2 2012, 22:14) I...   May 2 2012, 21:52
|- - Nessuno   By the way: speaking about backup, you can just ri...   May 2 2012, 22:06
|- - db1989   Is it really necessary to maintain two lossless ar...   May 2 2012, 22:25
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (db1989 @ May 2 2012, 23:25) Is it ...   May 3 2012, 08:10
- - RobertoDomenico   XLD will import into iTunes automatically and iTun...   May 3 2012, 08:22
- - Sabeque   Thank you all again for your input   May 6 2012, 22:48
- - fazalmajid   I use Sbooth's Max on my Mac. For some reason ...   Jul 18 2012, 17:34


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