Pro-Ject Debut III USB Preamp Advice |
Pro-Ject Debut III USB Preamp Advice |
May 10 2012, 16:13
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I have the turntable mentioned in the title. I suppose it's no big news that the USB-out is sometimes too loud (no gain adjustment) with some vinyl (which results in clipping,) especially nearly every double-LP I own. Much to my dismay it also happens with a few regular ones like my mint original-pressing Black Sabbath "Mob Rules." For about 70% of my LPs it's fine, though "limited" to 16-bit resolution for recording.
My questions are these: Would it be feasible to use something like the M-Audio Firewire Solo Amazon to record my needledrops from the preamp's RCA-outs to my Macintosh? (I'm using VinylStudio and it's pretty great IME.) If so, would I be able to effectively do so at 24-bit? (I don't imagine I hear any difference, but would like to do so for editing purposes.) Any recommendations/good advice is greatly appreciated. (I wish I had researched this TT before I bought it. I'm considering trading it in later and getting a regular Debut III or something else in their line-up for under 800 USD...that's just not going to happen anytime really soon. I'm otherwise pleased with this TT's performance, so I wouldn't mind coming up with a good workaround. I get great results with many records and the hardware/software combingation.) Pretty new to digitizing vinyl, so please forgive my ignorance. -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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May 15 2012, 03:18
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If you were looking at music that had been mastered, and remained thereafter, in the digital domain, that is a fairly likely scenario. When you are looking at something you are recording from the analogue domain, actual ADC clipping is far more likely. The shape of the peak, observed at very high zoom, will tell the story.
Clipping in the analogue domain, such as the input of an amplifier, often tends to be softer, the wave shape of the peak less of a guide. I've purchased a couple new test LPs, and collected another 6 to 10 used. Nothing on recordings of any of them has come near to clipping level. Levels have been higher, at a few peaks here and there, on various symphony recordings. |
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Engelsstaub Pro-Ject Debut III USB Preamp Advice May 10 2012, 16:13
Apesbrain Absolutely, so long as you run the TT line level o... May 10 2012, 20:30
mixminus1 @Apesbrain: The OP's turntable has a preamp bu... May 10 2012, 20:35
Engelsstaub Thanks for the replies. Apesbrain: yeah, this part... May 10 2012, 22:46
AndyH-ha Clipping via the USB connection is caused by the a... May 11 2012, 01:54
Engelsstaub QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ May 10 2012, 19:54... May 11 2012, 03:09
mixminus1 No, Andy's saying that the outputs of the inte... May 11 2012, 03:42
AndyH-ha "it would have to be a VERY hot phono pre... May 11 2012, 04:55
Engelsstaub mixminus1: my Mac is a late 2010 13" MacBook ... May 11 2012, 16:45
AndyH-ha I can be of only limited help here but you should ... May 11 2012, 20:53
AndyH-ha The possibility also exist that you might not have... May 11 2012, 20:59
Apesbrain @OP, I now understand and I'm sorry for the mi... May 11 2012, 21:06
Engelsstaub Well, I do have a RCA-to1/8" cable that I use... May 12 2012, 02:28
AndyH-ha "I adjusted the volume to max out at around 9... May 12 2012, 03:18
Engelsstaub Nah, I had it turned all the way up on the Mac... May 12 2012, 04:09
AndyH-ha It seems rather strange that a recording applicati... May 12 2012, 06:55
punkrockdude What cartridge is it on the turntable? Just asking... May 12 2012, 14:39
Engelsstaub punkrockdude: it's the stock Ortofon OM5e that... May 12 2012, 14:57
AndyH-ha QUOTE I'm gathering from everything you've... May 12 2012, 20:52
Engelsstaub Alright. Thanks for your reply and your patience, ... May 12 2012, 21:39
AndyH-ha Have you determined that you get clipping using yo... May 12 2012, 23:16
Engelsstaub Yes, this and a few other records seem to clip in ... May 13 2012, 00:18
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ May 10 2012, 11:13) ... May 14 2012, 12:59
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ May 14 2012, 06... May 14 2012, 15:18
dhromed QUOTE Audacity has a clipping indicator. I'm w... May 14 2012, 15:33
Engelsstaub Oh, ok, Thanks, dhromed.
I think I understand how... May 14 2012, 16:27
Engelsstaub Hey, AndyH (or anybody else reading) ...as long as... May 15 2012, 18:05
AndyH-ha According to the manufacturer's literature, th... May 15 2012, 21:36
Engelsstaub Great. Thanks for your help, Andy (and also everyo... May 16 2012, 01:19![]() ![]() |
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